Typhoon Tip Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Hadley cell gonna swallow us hole. unless this is a pun ... i think you mean swallow us "whole" - but come to think about it .. hole is better lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Just now, Typhoon Tip said: unless this is a pun ... i think you mean swallow us "whole" - but come to think about it .. hole is better lol Just one big black hole sucking all matter into it. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago guys ... i was being snarky re the half over winter - dec 1 to mar 1 really doesn't mean anything to reality and nature. it's just a dumb demarcation because climate science needs to have equal quadrature 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: guys ... i was being snarky re the half over winter - dec 1 to mar 1 really doesn't mean anything to reality and nature. it's just a dumb demarcation because climate science needs to have equal quadrature It's ok, we are just brusied and beaten, and Torch Tiger already started a February thread, can't lie morale is down for snow lovers here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Just one big black hole sucking all matter into it. When is our last south to north east coast bonanza?? 2002-2003? I mean, I guess you could argue seasons like 2010-2011, and maybe 2013-2014? But the former was definitely better in NE than the mid Atlantic. The latter wasn't really upper echelon up here. What we are usually seeing here in more modern times is that there are regions of "haves and have nots" once the seasonal tracks become established.....for instance, 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 it was up here....2020-2021 it was in NJ, while our area was in the compression bone-zone...this year its the mid Atlantic and southeast, and we are in the bone zone-compression field....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: When is our last south to north east coast bonanza?? 2002-2003? I mean, I guess you could argue seasons like 2010-2011, and maybe 2013-2014? But the former was definitely better in NE than the mid Atlantic. The latter wasn't really upper echelon up here. What we are usually seeing here in more modern times is that there are regions of "haves and have nots" once the seasonal tracks become established.....for instance, 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 it was up here....2020-2021 it was in NJ, while our area was in the compression bone-zone...this year its the mid Atlantic and southeast, and we are in the bone zone-compression field....again. Hell we have bone zones in New England lately. LOL. It's been awhile for an "East Coast winter" for sure. Without looking at anything, the recent -PDO tendencies and La Nina to go along with it usually aren't the best recipe for a widespread geographical winter from near 40N on into NNE. IMO anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Hell we have bone zones in New England lately. LOL. It's been awhile for an "East Coast winter" for sure. Without looking at anything, the recent -PDO tendencies and La Nina to go along with it usually aren't the best recipe for a widespread geographical winter from near 40N on into NNE. IMO anyways. Big dog east coast winters are rare anyways. Even historically. The 1980s had some decent mid-Atlantic winters and southeast winters while we got screwed. Most of the good winters in the 1970s were more New England-centric with the huge exception of 1978-79. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, ORH_wxman said: Big dog east coast winters are rare anyways. Even historically. The 1980s had some decent mid-Atlantic winters and southeast winters while we got screwed. Most of the good winters in the 1970s were more New England-centric with the huge exception of 1978-79. Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Maybe 16-17 as well but I think the MA got screwed that season. 09-10 was def the ultimate Mid Atlantic winter, that was their 14-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol Again... CC for sure.... No coincidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol qualitative ... he gave you his quant .. i think you mean qualitatively - the context of your back and forth was that 'big dawg ec winters are rarefying' - there's some subjectivity to that so it kind of has to be a qualitative aspect. whatever.. man, make this winter stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Joke January 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Maybe 16-17 as well but I think the MA got screwed that season. 09-10 was def the ultimate Mid Atlantic winter, that was their 14-15 16-17 was like a normal winter in my area....maybe a few inches above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: qualitative ... he gave you his quant .. i think you mean qualitatively - the context of your back and forth was that 'big dawg ec winters are rarefying' - there's some subjectivity to that so it kind of has to be a qualitative aspect. whatever.. man, make this winter stop I was thinking along the lines of statistics to back up my hypothesis, so I meant quantitative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 21 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol Maybe they come back in someway when the PDO changes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Will there be another E coast winter before we pass? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago Joke January.Sent from my SM-S146VL using Tapatalk 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Not me, at this point. If I could opt out of this season right now, I would do so without blinking. Yep. Had enough cold and dry. Time for torches and rains to Maine. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 14 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Maybe they come back in someway when the PDO changes? Yea, I think we could see one around the turn of the decade, give or take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago On the bright side, the 12z Euro OP has a D13 snower for NNE 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Will there be another E coast winter before we pass? Let’s wait for Wolfie’s take… 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Some random thoughts while I sit at home bored: If there are Hadley Cells wouldn’t there also be South Hadley cells? And if we were to make a Weather themed record album wouldn’t “Nine Days Away…” have to be the title track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol Are they? I think we’d want deeper quantitative analysis to actually know the answer. They kind of seem to be a once per decade type thing…roughly speaking. If we’re including the southeast (and not just mid-Atlantic for the southern extent), then I think it’s probably a safe assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Are they? I think we’d want deeper quantitative analysis to actually know the answer. They kind of seem to be a once per decade type thing…roughly speaking. If we’re including the southeast (and not just mid-Atlantic for the southern extent), then I think it’s probably a safe assumption. Yes, up and down the east coast...a la 1995-1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yes, up and down the east coast...a la 1995-1996. ‘95-96 is such a unicorn…so I hate using that as an example. No previous winter looked anything like it really. Maybe 1898-99…a bit colder but less snow in the northeast (more snow in southeast) Maybe ‘60-61 but not sure if that year hit the southeast good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: ‘95-96 is such a unicorn…so I hate using that as an example. No previous winter looked anything like it really. Maybe 1898-99…a bit colder but less snow in the northeast (more snow in southeast) Maybe ‘60-61 but not sure if that year hit the southeast good Wait...did you really just casually drop a 19th century winter as an analog? I figured your extensive knowledge stopped pre 1950 or something lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: ‘95-96 is such a unicorn…so I hate using that as an example. No previous winter looked anything like it really. Maybe 1898-99…a bit colder but less snow in the northeast (more snow in southeast) Maybe ‘60-61 but not sure if that year hit the southeast good Even 2002-2003 is another example.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I hate to do it. I really do. But it's reality up here in the northern mountains. The upslope flow has just loaded the northern Greens. Stowe's official High Road plot with 16" in 48 hours. And 145" on the season. Could be on pace for a 300" season at 3,000ft+. This photo was on in-bounds ski terrain that is 500 feet above the official snow site, as the 3-4K ft elevations are all above the reported resort numbers. 3 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: I hate to do it. I really do. But it's reality up here in the northern mountains. The upslope flow has just loaded the northern Greens. Stowe's official High Road plot with 16" in 48 hours. And 145" on the season. Could be on pace for a 300" season at 3,000ft+. This photo was on in-bounds ski terrain that is 500 feet above the official snow site as the 3-4K ft elevations are all above the reported resort numbers. Excuse me sir, but this is the New England subforum. Please keep these posts in the western subforum. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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