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8 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

guys ... i was being snarky re the half over winter -  

dec 1 to mar 1 really doesn't mean anything to reality and nature.  it's just a dumb demarcation because climate science needs to have equal quadrature

It's ok, we are just brusied and beaten, and Torch Tiger already started a February thread, can't lie morale is down for snow lovers here. 

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18 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Just one big black hole sucking all matter into it.

When is our last south to north east coast bonanza?? 2002-2003? I mean, I guess you could argue seasons like 2010-2011, and maybe 2013-2014? But the former was definitely better in NE than the mid Atlantic. The latter wasn't really upper echelon up here. What we are usually seeing here in more modern times is that there are regions of "haves and have nots" once the seasonal tracks become established.....for instance, 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 it was up here....2020-2021 it was in NJ, while our area was in the compression bone-zone...this year its the mid Atlantic and southeast, and we are in the bone zone-compression field....again.

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7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

When is our last south to north east coast bonanza?? 2002-2003? I mean, I guess you could argue seasons like 2010-2011, and maybe 2013-2014? But the former was definitely better in NE than the mid Atlantic. The latter wasn't really upper echelon up here. What we are usually seeing here in more modern times is that there are regions of "haves and have nots" once the seasonal tracks become established.....for instance, 2014-2015 and 2017-2018 it was up here....2020-2021 it was in NJ, while our area was in the compression bone-zone...this year its the mid Atlantic and southeast, and we are in the bone zone-compression field....again.

Hell we have bone zones in New England lately. LOL.

 

It's been awhile for an "East Coast winter" for sure. Without looking at anything, the recent -PDO tendencies and La Nina to go along with it usually aren't the best recipe for a widespread geographical winter from near 40N on into NNE. IMO anyways.

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3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Hell we have bone zones in New England lately. LOL.

 

It's been awhile for an "East Coast winter" for sure. Without looking at anything, the recent -PDO tendencies and La Nina to go along with it usually aren't the best recipe for a widespread geographical winter from near 40N on into NNE. IMO anyways.

Big dog east coast winters are rare anyways. Even historically. The 1980s had some decent mid-Atlantic winters and southeast winters while we got screwed. Most of the good winters in the 1970s were more New England-centric with the huge exception of 1978-79. 

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Just now, ORH_wxman said:

Big dog east coast winters are rare anyways. Even historically. The 1980s had some decent mid-Atlantic winters and southeast winters while we got screwed. Most of the good winters in the 1970s were more New England-centric with the huge exception of 1978-79. 

Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol

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6 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol

qualitative ... 

he gave you his quant ..  i think you mean qualitatively - the context of your back and forth was that 'big dawg ec winters are rarefying' -    there's some subjectivity to that so it kind of has to be a qualitative aspect.

whatever..   man, make this winter stop

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4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

qualitative ... 

he gave you his quant ..  i think you mean qualitatively - the context of your back and forth was that 'big dawg ec winters are rarefying' -    there's some subjectivity to that so it kind of has to be a qualitative aspect.

whatever..   man, make this winter stop

I was thinking along the lines of statistics to back up my hypothesis, so I meant quantitative.

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20 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Yea, but they are becoming more rare is my point...hypothesis, so don't ask for a quantitative anaiysis from Cornell lol

Are they? I think we’d want deeper quantitative analysis to actually know the answer. They kind of seem to be a once per decade type thing…roughly speaking.  
 

If we’re including the southeast (and not just mid-Atlantic for the southern extent), then I think it’s probably a safe assumption. 

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4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Are they? I think we’d want deeper quantitative analysis to actually know the answer. They kind of seem to be a once per decade type thing…roughly speaking.  
 

If we’re including the southeast (and not just mid-Atlantic for the southern extent), then I think it’s probably a safe assumption. 

Yes, up and down the east coast...a la 1995-1996.

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1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Yes, up and down the east coast...a la 1995-1996.

‘95-96 is such a unicorn…so I hate using that as an example. No previous winter looked anything like it really. Maybe 1898-99…a bit colder but less snow in the northeast (more snow in southeast)

Maybe ‘60-61 but not sure if that year hit the southeast good 

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3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

‘95-96 is such a unicorn…so I hate using that as an example. No previous winter looked anything like it really. Maybe 1898-99…a bit colder but less snow in the northeast (more snow in southeast)

Maybe ‘60-61 but not sure if that year hit the southeast good 

Wait...did you really just casually drop a 19th century winter as an analog? I figured your extensive knowledge stopped pre 1950 or something lol

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52 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

‘95-96 is such a unicorn…so I hate using that as an example. No previous winter looked anything like it really. Maybe 1898-99…a bit colder but less snow in the northeast (more snow in southeast)

Maybe ‘60-61 but not sure if that year hit the southeast good 

Even 2002-2003 is another example....

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I hate to do it.  I really do.  But it's reality up here in the northern mountains.

The upslope flow has just loaded the northern Greens.  Stowe's official High Road plot with 16" in 48 hours.  And 145" on the season.  Could be on pace for a 300" season at 3,000ft+.  This photo was on in-bounds ski terrain that is 500 feet above the official snow site as the 3-4K ft elevations are all above the reported resort numbers.

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4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I hate to do it.  I really do.  But it's reality up here in the northern mountains.

The upslope flow has just loaded the northern Greens.  Stowe's official High Road plot with 16" in 48 hours.  And 145" on the season.  Could be on pace for a 300" season at 3,000ft+.  This photo was on in-bounds ski terrain that is 500 feet above the official snow site as the 3-4K ft elevations are all above the reported resort numbers.

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Excuse me sir, but this is the New England subforum. Please keep these posts in the western subforum.

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