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16 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

At minimum at the moment I like the idea of at least a close call near 160-180.  The main two ways it can go sour is probably first wave is too strong or the ensuing cold push from the Plains/MW is too strong and presses farther south.

Euro similiar 

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1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

 

We aren't there yet IMO....you also have to factor in that this year has in fact deviated from the prohibitively warm regime.

Probably not ... 

The purpose of that missive is just to be open minded to the possibility - "we have to consider" and all that ... 

Thing is, we all know it's coming - matter of when, not if.  Not unless we can get the   ... "quantum oscillator corrective kinetics" machine finally up and running  ... haha, you know   the 'qock'

seriously though, i do think we are running into a problem where providing the cold air is sort of imposing on heights - to be honest, I've definitely seen an increase in compression circumstance whenever cold hydrostatic heights ( thickness) occurring when non-hydrostatic heights ( the g-dz line we see at 500 mb ) are attempting to happen at the same time.  

The storms of 1978 have "relaxed" for lack of better argument general tapestry, with cold vs hot more tied into the thickness thermodynamics.  Trying to place that type of thermodynamic gradient in the midst of an already screaming g-dz ( compression --> higher velocity ambient geostrophic wind ) egh ... at minimum, we have to change the storm modes.  But realistically, there's a negative interference intrinsic to the field when the g-dz velecoties are soaked and the s/w are then less able to amply within that flow. 

Anyway, this latter facet is coherently tending to be more so true in recent decade(s).  Tendency, mind us - not a closed book...

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2 minutes ago, 8611Blizz said:

This discussion reminds me a boston met posted something about Logan airport went 4 years without a storm over 6". 1988 - 1992. I knew it was bad those years but I must have blocked it from my memory due to the trauma. 

 

 

NYC went 9 years without an 8 inch storm I think from 1984-1993, but some of that was bad luck and bad measuring.  The 7.6 inches on 1/22/87 had to be wrong based on EWR/LGA and some other random mesoscale bad luck contributed to that

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3 minutes ago, 8611Blizz said:

This discussion reminds me a boston met posted something about Logan airport went 4 years without a storm over 6". 1988 - 1992. I knew it was bad those years but I must have blocked it from my memory due to the trauma. 

 

 

We've mentioned that a few times. It's been almost 3 years for me not even having a 4" storm. 

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16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS has a low, but pretty far SE..however lots of spread as one can imagine. I could see a

lgt-mdt event.

just wish the damn gradient would slack enough to allow curl physics to even happen. 

this columnated beam like those cosmic jets firing out of either end of a quasar thing is really f-n old man.   we're not getting out of this winter without getting thru the f'er so please -

seriously... it more than just seems that we can't seem to ever get cold without this elephant's ass sitting on a trampoline flow stretched too taught -

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1 hour ago, iceman1 said:

too bad it's going to warm up and rain sat :raining:starting too really not like winter in ct i always hold out hope 

but at 66 years young time is running out can't we have a few winters like back in the 60s 

 

1 hour ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

Boy... You're always so optimistic. Lol

 

 

44 minutes ago, iceman1 said:

were you around back in the 60s 

I was in high school and enjoyed my first experienced NYC snow day in the 17.5” storm, the second week of December 1960. Mayor Wagner banned car travel in the city for snow removal. I remember folks skiing on 75th street in Diker Heights Brooklyn. I often wonder what the park measurements really were for those storms. I’m about three months short of 78 and will either enjoy another personal experience or enjoy vicariously through U Tube presentation on the board. I believe, iceman 1,  you’ll enjoy many more. Stay well and hopeful youngster. As always ….

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