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2 minutes ago, Heisy said:


Yep, next few suites are bigger than normal. Very tentative with that energy diving over the ridge. Yes MJO 6-18z euro runs can be wacky. I really want to see both the GFS and euro have it again at 12z and icon/cmc starting to show some phasing. Euro Ai being close again would be good as well. We’ll see


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6 and 18z thing was put to bed a long time ago. I don't know why certain people keep bringing that up.  It's just another calculation. Go back and look at the last 3 weeks and you'll see that some of the so-called on our runs were the ones with the wacky Solutions

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1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

What will probably happen is a more normal type of low- medium impact storm vs the big boy. So it will probably snow .. but the big boy is very low prob 

I disagree, this has big boy potential written all over it. Looks like my close the shades call is fuct, I’ll gladly take some egg for this to come of it.

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3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

GGEM and GPS have nothing and the Euro lost it . Big signal to be careful 

Haven’t seen 6z at H5, but the last off hour run dragged the energy in the SW…00z and 12z were better. I have cautious optimism, but today is a big day to start getting all models on board for a system riding up the coast. The trough coming out of Baja is in the 120-144hr window now.

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25 minutes ago, Heisy said:


Yep, next few suites are bigger than normal. Very tentative with that energy diving over the ridge. Yes MJO 6-18z euro runs can be wacky. I really want to see both the GFS and euro have it again at 12z and icon/cmc starting to show some phasing. Euro Ai being close again would be good as well. We’ll see


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Sometimes they briefly disappear at this stage so it might come back

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plenty of time..

i'd really like it better if there was more than a tepid response from the eps/gefs.  and what's with virtually no acknowledgement from the geps ...  in all is a bit unsettling for confidence in this thing. there are still possibilities that are about 1/3 each:   completely missing phase;  partial phase;  proficient phase.    these latter two need to get above 40% and start divorcing from the complete missed phase, because it occurs to me ( anyway ...) that whenever there is no phase, the n/stream is not ever getting it done.   just in a crude sense, the sensitivity as to whether there's anything worth really threading for (deterministically) comes down to establishing confidence in the phase proficiency  

obviously, the agreement by the 12z op euro, yesterday, was hinted and as everyone's seen ... the 0z basically married the 18z and 6z op gfs solutions.  cmc largely follows it's ensemble mean - 

it's an impressive storm potential, no argument.  anytime a storm evolves in guidance ...it's like they can't constrain and go right to or nearing apex solutions.  but again, this appears so far to be very determined by phasing.  

if the ens means start coalescing better ( and it wouldn't hurt to get he cmc cluster to wake up even a little )

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6 and 18z thing was put to bed a long time ago. I don't know why certain people keep bringing that up.  It's just another calculation. Go back and look at the last 3 weeks and you'll see that some of the so-called on our runs were the ones with the wacky Solutions

I agree, I was just relating to MJO. 6z euro going to the way it did mattered, but we can still quickly reverse it at 12z


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2 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said:

I notice the Mets seem cautiously optimistic…Ray Brian Scott?  And others.  I wonder if that is because this is a simple matter of timing versus a bunch of short waves in the flow to screw things up. It’s not as complex as some of the recent stuff has been.

When did Ray get his degree?!

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2 minutes ago, mahk_webstah said:

I notice the Mets seem cautiously optimistic…Ray Brian Scott?  And others.  I wonder if that is because this is a simple matter of timing versus a bunch of short waves in the flow to screw things up. It’s not as complex as some of the recent stuff has been.

No, they are right to be cautious. When trying for a phased solution like this it’s tenuous. Just really happy to have potentially something high end to track. 

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Both major AI models show something similar....the phase occurs on time, but too much Tippy compression over FL (576 over St. Augustine, not Miami) doesn't allow the base of the trough to go negative, at least not quickly enough.  Both are Cape scrapers.

 

Edit:  The 06z euro AI just rolled in.  Massive whiff.

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1 hour ago, Heisy said:


True, but the phase that we need for this to become a large event happens at around 96-102 hours so really not that far out.


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This is a week out and we are talking about a small window for this to phase to bring an appreciable event to this area. I think it’s asking a lot to have any sort of confidence in that type of accuracy before like Thursday.

I think the odds on favorite is a missed phase at this point. A lot needs to go right, and there is a reason the ensembles are mediocre and we’ve only seen a few OP hits.

Canadian also wants nothing to do with this, so it seems like people are completing tossing guidance that doesn’t have a storm

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