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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2024/25 Obs/Discussion


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12 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

I'm going with a C+.....if we had reached seasonal avg probably a B but doesn't look likely now. White Christmas, 13 or 14 'events', cold asf January, a couple minor icing events. I'm comfortable with a C+

If 2 of those 14 events could have been of the 4-8" variety, this winter would have been a B and brought us to average snow totals.  Lots of snow cover days too even though we didn't get a large storm.  I am with you on C+.  It felt like winter for a long stretch this year.

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5 minutes ago, FPizz said:

If 2 of those 14 events could have been of the 4-8" variety, this winter would have been a B and brought us to average snow totals.  Lots of snow cover days too even though we didn't get a large storm.  I am with you on C+.  It felt like winter for a long stretch this year.

I would go C- for most of the reasons you posted above. It got cold the day after Thanksgiving and stayed that way for the winter outside the week after Christmas. We also had stuff to track (unfortunately little snow to show for it) for most of the winter. 

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1 hour ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

Like this doesn't make any sense. Winter 2020 was a snowless winter. It was pretty much done and over with by the beginning of February. If 2020 is the analog for March, then the winter is done:

2020-03-01 45 25 35.0 -4.1 30 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-02 63 30 46.5 7.1 18 0 0.04 0.0 0
2020-03-03 60 41 50.5 10.9 14 0 0.12 0.0 0
2020-03-04 59 43 51.0 11.1 14 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-05 53 38 45.5 5.3 19 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-06 45 33 39.0 -1.4 26 0 0.35 0.0 0
2020-03-07 47 35 41.0 0.3 24 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-08 60 30 45.0 4.0 20 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-09 71 39 55.0 13.7 10 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-10 68 48 58.0 16.4 7 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-11 59 43 51.0 9.1 14 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-12 60 40 50.0 7.8 15 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-13 74 49 61.5 19.0 3 0 0.37 0.0 0
2020-03-14 58 43 50.5 7.7 14 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-15 55 40 47.5 4.4 17 0 0.01 0.0 0
2020-03-16 52 36 44.0 0.6 21 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-17 57 41 49.0 5.3 16 0 0.03 0.0 0
2020-03-18 59 40 49.5 5.5 15 0 0.08 0.0 0
2020-03-19 56 43 49.5 5.2 15 0 0.93 0.0 0
2020-03-20 79 49 64.0 19.3 1 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-21 67 41 54.0 9.0 11 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-22 47 35 41.0 -4.4 24 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-23 45 38 41.5 -4.2 23 0 0.80 0.0 0
2020-03-24 58 39 48.5 2.5 16 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-25 49 41 45.0 -1.4 20 0 0.01 0.0 0
2020-03-26 59 35 47.0 0.2 18 0 0.00 0.0 0
2020-03-27 69 49 59.0 11.9 6 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-28 54 47 50.5 3.0 14 0 1.14 0.0 0
2020-03-29 53 47 50.0 2.1 15 0 T 0.0 0
2020-03-30 60 45 52.5 4.3 12 0 0.06 0.0 0
2020-03-31 48 41 44.5 -4.1 20 0 T 0.0 0

Sorry, 2022 not 2020 typo eror. 

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I'll give this winter a B-. The only reason I give it such a "high" grade is because I was expecting a dead ratter (see first post in this thread). So I'm grading on the curve. From that perspective, this winter can be considered an overperformer. BUT...

It wasn't a notable or memorable winter in any regard. I bet five years from now if someone asks me to describe winter 2024-25, I'll draw a blank. Also, I feel like we left a lot of points on the field -- we just couldn't get that one SECS or MECS to hit. :(

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41 minutes ago, JTA66 said:

I'll give this winter a B-. The only reason I give it such a "high" grade is because I was expecting a dead ratter (see first post in this thread). So I'm grading on the curve. From that perspective, this winter can be considered an overperformer. BUT...

It wasn't a notable or memorable winter in any regard. I bet five years from now if someone asks me to describe winter 2024-25, I'll draw a blank. Also, I feel like we left a lot of points on the field -- we just couldn't get that one SECS or MECS to hit. :(

We left a lot of cold on the field which sucks. IMO, we won't see that kind of cold again for a while. 

Overall: C

Snow makes up 65 to 70% of the grade which we failed. Temperatures, wind and time with snow on the ground make up the rest which we did well. We had a couple mixed precip stuff which really didn't add or subtract from my grade. But yeah, blah, not a memorable winter. Probably mostly for the cold and wind and getting screwed out of the big ones...

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22 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

We left a lot of cold on the field which sucks. IMO, we won't see that kind of cold again for a while. 

Overall: C

Snow makes up 65 to 70% of the grade which we failed. Temperatures, wind and time with snow on the ground make up the rest which we did well. We had a couple mixed precip stuff which really didn't add or subtract from my grade. But yeah, blah, not a memorable winter. Probably mostly for the cold and wind and getting screwed out of the big ones...

One memory...the Eagles/Rams playoff game. Probably our biggest event of the season, but an underperformer.

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1 hour ago, Allsnow said:

I would go C- for most of the reasons you posted above. It got cold the day after Thanksgiving and stayed that way for the winter outside the week after Christmas. We also had stuff to track (unfortunately little snow to show for it) for most of the winter. 

If we had all these events and they melted in like a day or were washed away with rain, I would have went with the C-.  I like snow cover and even with the below average snowfall, having probably 30 or so days with full snow cover made up for the actual amount that we got.  Having a White Christmas was nice for once.  I am a bit glad now that the snow melted because we got a puppy and the darn thing loved eating snow, so we had to constantly take him out for bathroom breaks. :D  

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“Here's my winter forecast:

 

Temps:

Dec +1 - +3

Jan +2 - +4

Feb +4 - +6

Mar +1 - +3

Overall +2 - +4

Snowfall at select locations

PHL  5-10"

TTN 8-14"

ABE 15-20"

ACY 4-8"

 

With how northern stream dominant the pattern has been this fall, I do think we see a return of the clipper this winter. Think this is how we receive most of our snow with several 1-3"/2-4" storms. I think this will also be a winter of big swings. Some pretty good cold shots followed by temps in the 70's a few days later. I don't see weeks on end of it being cold or warm. Precip overall below normal with a lack of southern stream interaction. We may sneak in a miller B that provides the area with it's biggest snowfall of the year(4-8" type deal) but not seeing a blockbuster as I expect the NAO to remain”

 

I can’t figure out how to cross quote on mobile but this was my winter forecast from November 1st. Overall not bad snow wise and pattern wise, but definitely too warm temp wise. We never really saw huge positive departures this winter. Snowfall wise pretty on point for most areas probably too low in acy and Philly. 
 

overall I give winter a B-. We are going to finish slightly below average snow wise but it was mostly cold and we had a lot of snow events even if they were all small advisory events. Some slightly better luck and this would have been a memorable winter. But compared to the last few, it actually felt like winter this year for a full season not just for a few days or weeks so that’s a win in my book.

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8 hours ago, The Iceman said:

“Here's my winter forecast:

 

Temps:

Dec +1 - +3

Jan +2 - +4

Feb +4 - +6

Mar +1 - +3

Overall +2 - +4

Snowfall at select locations

PHL  5-10"

TTN 8-14"

ABE 15-20"

ACY 4-8"

 

With how northern stream dominant the pattern has been this fall, I do think we see a return of the clipper this winter. Think this is how we receive most of our snow with several 1-3"/2-4" storms. I think this will also be a winter of big swings. Some pretty good cold shots followed by temps in the 70's a few days later. I don't see weeks on end of it being cold or warm. Precip overall below normal with a lack of southern stream interaction. We may sneak in a miller B that provides the area with it's biggest snowfall of the year(4-8" type deal) but not seeing a blockbuster as I expect the NAO to remain”

 

I can’t figure out how to cross quote on mobile but this was my winter forecast from November 1st. Overall not bad snow wise and pattern wise, but definitely too warm temp wise. We never really saw huge positive departures this winter. Snowfall wise pretty on point for most areas probably too low in acy and Philly. 
 

overall I give winter a B-. We are going to finish slightly below average snow wise but it was mostly cold and we had a lot of snow events even if they were all small advisory events. Some slightly better luck and this would have been a memorable winter. But compared to the last few, it actually felt like winter this year for a full season not just for a few days or weeks so that’s a win in my book.

12.83” total here that’s all with 2 freezing rain events we sleet and severe thunderstorms 3 times with hail along with damaging winds up to 65-70 mph Presidents Day Weekend pretty active but precip meh. 

 

ACY got way more than 4-8” thru got more than that in one storm. 
 

it was like a split more north more south with little in the middle difluence the entire winter here bad kind of blocking lol. 

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1 hour ago, LVblizzard said:

Super boring pattern setting up for the next 1-2 weeks. I'm not ready to write this winter off just yet though. I think we get a storm or two to track in March.

Good luck! 
 

Storm track way north and another storm track way south the only thing we see is wind and rain later.

I cannot rule out a light 1” event on the grass down this way and 2-4” up your way.

 

ways I see it were are done! 

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While some lower spots reached below freezing here in East Nantmeal our low of only 35.8 marks the first time this month and only the 3rd time this year we have failed to fall below freezing for the AM low. Our mild week continues with the next widespread below freezing temperatures not likely till Friday night. Much colder by Saturday night and in fact we may struggle to get above freezing for high temperatures by the time we get to Sunday. Our best chance of rain will come on Thursday.

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1 hour ago, JTA66 said:

These clouds suck! I can see us easily being in the low to mid 60's without them.

55F

Big cloud fan here, you'll appreciate them as we move into the bitch fest of a Summer. Hopefully some catastrophic storms, winds, blowing trash cans, rooftop decapitation and all. Otherwise, a drought and drought guy goes off pasting the internet as references...

55F/Cloudy

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14 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

Big cloud fan here, you'll appreciate them as we move into the bitch fest of a Summer. Hopefully some catastrophic storms, winds, blowing trash cans, rooftop decapitation and all. Otherwise, a drought and drought guy goes off pasting the internet as references...

55F/Cloudy

Agreed. But it's still Feb. Spring is the only season I root for above normal temps. 

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1 hour ago, JTA66 said:

Agreed. But it's still Feb. Spring is the only season I root for above normal temps. 

Temps are fine in the 50s. I just don't want to rush into things since hot temperatures run into October these days. Hope April and May are cloudy damp and chilly...Seattle-ish, and throw in a couple new bands as well.

56F/Cloudy

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10 minutes ago, Albedoman said:

Drought baby drought sprinkles only sun back out. No precip in 10 days worth measuring. Roads wet enuf to create a nice brine spray for the idiots that washed their cars yesterday. Lol

Sprinkles here as well. I was lazy and didn't wash my car so I guess I'm okay...

54F/Sprinkles, not flurries but sprinkles

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On 2/21/2025 at 10:16 PM, snowwors2 said:

I’ve had coverage in my backyard since the first snow after that New Year’s rainer…

I’ll have coverage until May at this rate‼️

First photo: 11pm Thursday

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On 2/21/2025 at 10:16 PM, snowwors2 said:

Second photo: 4pm Friday

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Feel like @KamuSnow…Incredible resilience, shot 5 minutes ago‼️

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