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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2024/25 Obs/Discussion


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For the first time in 8 days, we should see a high temperature today above freezing. Tomorrow will also be above freezing but still below average before the cold air returns again tomorrow night and we fall back below freezing until Friday. Our next precipitation chance looks to be next weekend with rain followed by snow chances as we may see our coldest weather so far this winter by next week.

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I guess I'm less enthused about the pattern because it looks like a general continuation of the theme, which is cold and dry here.  I can understand areas our south being more excited, especially since they rely more on the cold push we're getting to see snow.

Being a bit more north, we don't necessarily need as intense of a cold air intrusion.  If the boundary stays to our south, then so does the snow, as it were.

Maybe developing this intense of a -EPO in an El Nino winter would generate that level of intrigue.  Perhaps I'm also missing something as even the ensembles don't have some fantastic long-range look to my eyes, but again, maybe there's something I'm overlooking.

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25 minutes ago, Mikeymac5306 said:

Yeah 6Z runs were garbage to say the least. 

Isn't it that you get the long range bomb, then after a day you lose it for a few days only for it to come back a week out? 

There will be many more model runs with significant storms.....we have plenty of model snow left to shovel in 2025!!!

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Today, while closer to normal will be our 24th below normal temperature day over the last 29 days. Our high today should be reached by mid-afternoon. We then see a cold front crossing the area with winds increasing and the temperatures falling below freezing by evening and we then stay below freezing all work week till Friday afternoon. We stay dry this week with our next rain chances by Friday night which could start as a little snow before a changeover to rain.

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1 hour ago, Birds~69 said:

We are really pissing away all this cold air. Nothing really to show for it besides a couple zero to 2-in storms.

36f, mostly cloudy

Yes we are pissing it away but what is worse we are not getting anything in return rain or snow. If we do not get 12+ snow storm by mid Feb or a few heavy rainfall events when the ground is not actually frozen, we are in some real deep shit. The ground water tables are really falling now, causing the water lines to break when the lines are not held up by the unstable soils. Moisture in the soils helps stabilizes them for the winter.

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1 hour ago, Albedoman said:

Yes we are pissing it away but what is worse we are not getting anything in return rain or snow. If we do not get 12+ snow storm by mid Feb or a few heavy rainfall events when the ground is not actually frozen, we are in some real deep shit. The ground water tables are really falling now, causing the water lines to break when the lines are not held up by the unstable soils. Moisture in the soils helps stabilizes them for the winter.

Drought guy being drought guy. Your fascination with low water/moisture levels is amazing. SE PA never closed down due to low water/moisture levels.  

I just want a damn storm which I can shovel into a huge mound/pile. All we hear are leaf blowers after a event not V8 snowblowers. Or the event sails S and we receive zilch...

Frustrating winter, 38F, Cloudy 

 

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I’m surely not ready to cancel winter on the 13th of January, I still think we get hit with one good storm probably later on towards February. As long as cold air is around we stand a good chance we don’t need anymore Arctic intrusion’s. Anyway 40F feels good even with the clouds 

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Really looking forward to the 1.5" from the Euro next Monday morning before I wake, followed by the arctic hounds.

Snow cover this year is like  winter in the northern pole region of Mars as the CO2 freezes and whitens surfaces.

 

 

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