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E PA/NJ/DE Winter 2024/25 Obs/Discussion


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18 minutes ago, Chadzachadam said:

Quite likely! And to be fair he didn't mention the 12z NAM specifically, just said he suspected the precip shield might extend further west in this setup than the global models are suggesting verbatim. NAM is probably just over-amped like usual

Bernie is good at what he does. I used to work with him back in the day. Agree that the NAM is probably overdone with the amplification. 

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4 hours ago, The Iceman said:

I wasn’t alive for the 1980s but someone was telling me the other day that this was exactly like the typical 80s winter. Does that track for you old heads in here? 

Yea but some of those winters had double the snow due to some big hits such as February 11th 1983 and there was a big one mainly south and east January 88 or 89 Wildwood picked up like 26” while PHL got literally flurries before the sun came out we were predicting 3-6 north and west 4-8 in and around the city.  So yea 80s were active with some close calls and hits.  Think we got 6” right near Thanksgiving in 1989. 

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4 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

Overall we were just starting the warming cycle rebounding from our coldest decade ever in the 1970's....while warmer than the 70's snowfall increased almost 11" on average during the decade of the 1980's. While it was snowier it was not nearly as snowy as our last 2 complete decades (2000's /2010's)

Again big hits happened and well basically not much after 2016 and 2015. 

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4 hours ago, The Iceman said:

I wasn’t alive for the 1980s but someone was telling me the other day that this was exactly like the typical 80s winter. Does that track for you old heads in here? 

Ez enough to go here and review those winters

Lots of cold winters and individual cold winter months with low snow totals. 81&82, 84-86 in particular. Two great area wide storms that decade in 83&87 

oops link 

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/Climate?wfo=phi

 

 

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Long range continues to be a complete crap shoot, seeing lots of talk the last two days of the cold pattern breaking down next week much earlier than predicted. Today's GFS drops the arctic hammer AGAIN the first week of March wtf. Just when I was ready for spring warmth.

Historic palm tree snow again and in March what gives?

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Kevin Reilly said:

Yea but some of those winters had double the snow due to some big hits such as February 11th 1983 and there was a big one mainly south and east January 88 or 89 Wildwood picked up like 26” while PHL got literally flurries before the sun came out we were predicting 3-6 north and west 4-8 in and around the city.  So yea 80s were active with some close calls and hits.  Think we got 6” right near Thanksgiving in 1989. 

I think this is the one where chopper 6 was in the air/clouds showing the dividing line between heavy snow and nothing.You could literally see the line in the air. I was out of my mind seeing SNJ getting hammered and just cloudy at my location (Horsham). Really couldn't understand it at the time...

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1 minute ago, Birds~69 said:

I think this is the one where chopper 6 was in the air/clouds showing the dividing line between heavy snow and nothing.You could literally see the line in the air. I was out of my mind seeing SNJ getting hammered and just cloudy at my location (Horsham). Really couldn't understand it at the time...

Actually the sun was out

 

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36 minutes ago, Kevin Reilly said:

Yea but some of those winters had double the snow due to some big hits such as February 11th 1983 and there was a big one mainly south and east January 88 or 89 Wildwood picked up like 26” while PHL got literally flurries before the sun came out we were predicting 3-6 north and west 4-8 in and around the city.  So yea 80s were active with some close calls and hits.  Think we got 6” right near Thanksgiving in 1989. 

That would have been Feb '89, I believe. I recall another bust, Jan '85 maybe? Went to bed under a Winter Storm Warning and woke up to filtered sun...such a crushing feeling!

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42 minutes ago, RedSky said:

Long range continues to be a complete crap shoot, seeing lots of talk the last two days of the cold pattern breaking down next week much earlier than predicted. Today's GFS drops the arctic hammer AGAIN the first week of March wtf. Just when I was ready for spring warmth.

Historic palm tree snow again and in March what gives?

 

 

MOOORCHH.png

Same dam stuff maybe we are setting up by mid March to early April at this point. 

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40 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

I think this is the one where chopper 6 was in the air/clouds showing the dividing line between heavy snow and nothing.You could literally see the line in the air. I was out of my mind seeing SNJ getting hammered and just cloudy at my location (Horsham). Really couldn't understand it at the time...

Yea definitely a tough day for me that day in 8th grade.  That was way tougher pull to swallow than what’s going on right now, but honestly looking back on models Friday and where we were potentially headed it’s close!

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