Mikeymac5306 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Had some sleet at the start last night which quickly turned to rain in Exton. Long range has some mood flakes Saturday while all the local Fire Departments make thier santa runs. Fantasy land looks like we keep a side eye on NYE, but even that doesn't look promising this far out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 We picked up 0.77" of rain here in East Nantmeal with most spots picking up between 0.65" to 0.95" of rain across Chester County. We get a brief break in the rain today before rain arrives again later this evening. We could see another 0.25" to 0.50" of rain tonight. The sun returns and warmer tomorrow before we start a cooling trend that will lead to our coldest weather so far this season by the weekend. Rain chances again on Wednesday PM and maybe a little snow by Friday afternoon and evening before we turn sharply colder over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albedoman Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Well it now appears Christmas day will be brown. NO major snow event anywhere on the models for our area for and after Christmas and in fact after Christmas we get torched. Rain I will take but this crap of having freeze your balls off temps with no snow pack is utterly ridiculous. So many years of this stupid weather pattern is got to end soon. The snow producing storm events never matches up with the deep cold anymore as the deep cold air sticks around only for a few days . We are always on the frozen/liqid precip line too as a result. If we would have had a decent snowpack this weekend, we would have been below zero for overnight lows. I aslo do not know which is worse, the snow drought or rain drought? LOL I am sorry but with my 50+ years of weather history experience, I am realizing that the only way to break this shitty snow producing weather pattern will be a severe ice storm with a real deep and strong cold snap from repeated passing clippers every 2-3 days- kinda like 94. LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymac5306 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 26 minutes ago, Albedoman said: Well it now appears Christmas day will be brown. NO major snow event anywhere on the models for our area for and after Christmas and in fact after Christmas we get torched. Rain I will take but this crap of having freeze your balls off temps with no snow pack is utterly ridiculous. So many years of this stupid weather pattern is got to end soon. The snow producing storm events never matches up with the deep cold anymore as the deep cold air sticks around only for a few days . We are always on the frozen/liqid precip line too as a result. If we would have had a decent snowpack this weekend, we would have been below zero for overnight lows. I aslo do not know which is worse, the snow drought or rain drought? LOL I am sorry but with my 50+ years of weather history experience, I am realizing that the only way to break this shitty snow producing weather pattern will be a severe ice storm with a real deep and strong cold snap from repeated passing clippers every 2-3 days- kinda like 94. LOL. 1994 was probably the worst winter I ever experienced. I'll never forget 19 degrees and heavy rain. LOL Skating rinks for weeks. I remember seeing the salt trucks going backwards for miles cause they had no traction to drive forward to lay salt down. One good thing was my Dad worked for the electric company. Our power was only off for a few hours, and we had a pretty nice vacation that summer. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 50 minutes ago, Albedoman said: Well it now appears Christmas day will be brown. NO major snow event anywhere on the models for our area for and after Christmas and in fact after Christmas we get torched. Rain I will take but this crap of having freeze your balls off temps with no snow pack is utterly ridiculous. So many years of this stupid weather pattern is got to end soon. The snow producing storm events never matches up with the deep cold anymore as the deep cold air sticks around only for a few days . We are always on the frozen/liqid precip line too as a result. If we would have had a decent snowpack this weekend, we would have been below zero for overnight lows. I aslo do not know which is worse, the snow drought or rain drought? LOL I am sorry but with my 50+ years of weather history experience, I am realizing that the only way to break this shitty snow producing weather pattern will be a severe ice storm with a real deep and strong cold snap from repeated passing clippers every 2-3 days- kinda like 94. LOL. One major factor is the -PDO....been negative phase since 2016ish. If we can ever get that to flip to positive for a bit I have a feeling that will impact our wintry weather for the better. No end in sight for that according to the PDO outlooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBasile Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Picked up 0.83" of rain overnight and this morning. Up to 2.42" for the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 1 hour ago, Ralph Wiggum said: One major factor is the -PDO....been negative phase since 2016ish. If we can ever get that to flip to positive for a bit I have a feeling that will impact our wintry weather for the better. No end in sight for that according to the PDO outlooks. I'd argue we've been in a secular -PDO phase since mid-1998. The +PDO phase in the mid-2010s was a cyclical one, which pretty much coincided with the 2014-16 el nino. Other than that, we've been -PDO most of the time for the past 25+ years. My guess is that we'll flip to a secular +PDO state with the next el nino, either in 2026-27 or 2027-28. The last time we flipped from secular -PDO to secular +PDO was in mid-1976, and we got a nice stretch of winters that followed. 1949-1976 -PDO 1976-1998 +PDO 1998-present -PDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 .80" liquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Think I got this figured out. This is like a climate change warmed version of December 89 Allentown is -4.5F and .30" snow through mid month vs -12F in 1989 with 4.5" snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 Last night’s snow melted before noon today. Now it’s chilly and drizzly and just blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 2 hours ago, RedSky said: Think I got this figured out. This is like a climate change warmed version of December 89 Allentown is -4.5F and .30" snow through mid month vs -12F in 1989 with 4.5" snow Not really, 1989 turned cold well before December started. This year was very warm in November. It reminds me more of 2005 or 2020. Both years were colder than average and snowy in February. December 2005 and December 2020 were +PNA, like this December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 16 Share Posted December 16 1 hour ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: Not really, 1989 turned cold well before December started. This year was very warm in November. It reminds me more of 2005 or 2020. Both years were colder than average and snowy in February. December 2005 and December 2020 were +PNA, like this December. If it's like 2005 warmed looking forward to some 75F days with thunderstorms in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 11 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said: One major factor is the -PDO....been negative phase since 2016ish. If we can ever get that to flip to positive for a bit I have a feeling that will impact our wintry weather for the better. No end in sight for that according to the PDO outlooks. So.... The PDO is broken then what the hell!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 2 hours ago, RedSky said: If it's like 2005 warmed looking forward to some 75F days with thunderstorms in January With tornado warnings in February! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Currently 46f dewpoint 45f second round of rain has begun. Total rainfall from round #1: 0.90" Had a few mangled snowflakes mixed in with the rain last night for about the first 20 minutes before quickly changing to rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 0z models looking slightly intriguing for Friday night. Probably won't turn into anything plowable/significant but if trends continue we could see a light snow event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albedoman Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 8 minutes ago, LVblizzard said: 0z models looking slightly intriguing for Friday night. Probably won't turn into anything plowable/significant but if trends continue we could see a light snow event. I will take anything at this point. A 1-3 inch snow event would be a huge win in this crappy season thus far and overnight raditional cooling with a snow cover on Sat morning would push the lows in the single digits for sure over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 .90" Over 6" in the last month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBasile Posted Tuesday at 10:47 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:47 AM Added another 0.24" of rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted Tuesday at 05:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:34 PM Finished with 1" of rain and .50" snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted Tuesday at 10:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:33 PM 18z models target eastern PA for an inverted trough event on Friday evening. The ICON is very aggressive with 1-3" in the Philly area and 2-4" in the LV/Poconos. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted Wednesday at 12:36 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:36 AM 18z NAMming with the bullseye here and still snowing after this frame 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted Wednesday at 12:42 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:42 AM 5 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: 18z NAMming with the bullseye here and still snowing after this frame White Christmas with drones dude it's happening 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted Wednesday at 12:45 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:45 AM Tossed a pumpkin into the yard and invited a friend apparently 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted Wednesday at 12:50 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:50 AM Tasty snack he's a biggun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted Wednesday at 01:19 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:19 AM I would take anything measurable.. because right now we are tracking to finish below normal on the month temp wise with 0 snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted Wednesday at 01:50 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:50 AM 29 minutes ago, The Iceman said: I would take anything measurable.. because right now we are tracking to finish below normal on the month temp wise with 0 snow. We do cold/dry and warm/wet better than any region. ..I'm willing to wager on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted Wednesday at 03:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:06 AM 2 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Tossed a pumpkin into the yard and invited a friend apparently Deer in the headlights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted Wednesday at 03:07 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:07 AM 1 hour ago, Ralph Wiggum said: We do cold/dry and warm/wet better than any region. ..I'm willing to wager on this. IN THE WORLD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted Wednesday at 03:09 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:09 AM 0z NAM is ago for Friday night holiday snow. Let's reel this one in. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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