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Converged on a 12/21/2024 coastal storm, however ... much higher than normal uncertainty relative to very shortterm. May need nowcast for impacting east/SE regions


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NEXT....

In search of an extreme event. I do believe that there is a big-one in the deck of cards this season.
aka HECS, a triple phaser. These 6-12" tracking for days just don't seem to cut-it. I want to see a cross polar blocking pattern, massive trough negatively tilted, SJ, NJ, banana 1050 to the N much like Sandy or the Perfect Storm backs in and stalls.

Hey, one can dream.    

 

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18 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

These norluns keep showing up on these runs…as Tip and someone else said, could that be a sign of a more westerly move later on?  Just wondering?  Not completely out of the realm of possibility. 

They mentioned it this morning on channel 8 live feed. Gil Simmons was talking about the Norlun trough and the possibility of that happening Friday night

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4 minutes ago, Snowcrazed71 said:

They mentioned it this morning on channel 8 live feed. Gil Simmons was talking about the Norlun trough and the possibility of that happening Friday night

What I meant is, sometimes the models will do that Norlun stuff, when they don’t know exactly where to put the SLP.  And sometimes(not all the time), that can be indicative of a move westward in later runs.  
 

Certainly not trying to wishcast anything, but I was just wondering if that is why we keep seeing this Norlun idea? 

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22 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

What I meant is, sometimes the models will do that Norlun stuff, when they don’t know exactly where to put the SLP.  And sometimes(not all the time), that can be indicative of a move westward in later runs.  
 

Certainly not trying to wishcast anything, but I was just wondering if that is why we keep seeing this Norlun idea? 

I get what you're saying completely. It's so hard to know which way this would go ( And if it even goes either way ). Helping for a miracle LOL

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34 minutes ago, dendrite said:

That’s valid 18z. Can probably tack 5-10F onto that. 

yeah i've come to just stop trying to figure out why the global models are always 10 f too short on highs, summer or winter...

i just figure they stop mixing at 1000 mb and assume that's the sfc sigma everywhere, so they basically don't have a 2-meter temp - even though the f'ing product says that  :blink:

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When you guys talk about some of the storms in the past that showed up on modeling then disappeared, only to come back again and be decent storms, were there any characteristics in the patterns that had you saying "No way, that storm can't simply disappear"?  Or alternatively, do you recall statements like we've seen recently where people are saying "It's a garbage airmass", "the flow is too fast", "it's not digging deep enough out west", etc?

As an observer it seems that everyone has given up on anything happening here.  Just curious if the sentiment was the same with other storms in the past that materialized out of nowhere at the last minute or if it was obvious that something could and should happen.  

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