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Pittsburgh/Western PA Winter 2024-2025 Thread


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Zero chance it happens guys. Sorry to burst your bubble. The seasonal trend has not been friendly for heavier synoptic storms north of the Dixon. 
Sucks to be in the bullseye 5 days out and on just one model. Just to tease us a little before the rug gets ripped out yet again. Lol

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1 hour ago, blackngoldrules said:

Sucks to be in the bullseye 5 days out and on just one model. Just to tease us a little before the rug gets ripped out yet again. Lol

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Have to see if the NS vort hanging back a bit becomes a trend, or just a momentary blip. 

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Not a lot of support from the ensembles, and right now it's the only model with this solution.

It's also shown a larger magnitude storm many times this winter in the mid-range.  None have amplified as advertised.  If we're under 72 hours and have some consistency, then I might get interested.

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9 minutes ago, jwilson said:

Not a lot of support from the ensembles, and right now it's the only model with this solution.

It's also shown a larger magnitude storm many times this winter in the mid-range.  None have amplified as advertised.  If we're under 72 hours and have some consistency, then I might get interested.

Everything has deamplified. I don't see how this one doesn't follow the seasonal trend especially whenever most other guidance is against the GFS. 

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Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA
1004 AM EST Tue Mar 4 2025

PAZ014-020>022-029-031-073>078-041715-
Butler-Beaver-Allegheny-Armstrong-Washington-Greene-Westmoreland-
Higher Elevations of Westmoreland-Fayette-
Higher Elevations of Fayette-Indiana-Higher Elevations of Indiana-
Including the cities of Butler, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls,
Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Kittanning, Ford City,
Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg,
New Kensington, Lower Burrell, Latrobe, Monessen, Ligonier,
Donegal, Uniontown, Champion, Ohiopyle, Indiana, and Armagh
1004 AM EST Tue Mar 4 2025

...INCREASED FIRE DANGER TODAY...

Low relative humidity and fuel moisture values will impose an
increased risk for fire danger this afternoon. Relative humidity
values are expected to drop as low as 25% during peak heating
hours across southwest Pennsylvania. In addition, southerly wind
gusts to 15-20 mph at times are expected this afternoon, and this
will work in tandem with the low RH values to create an increased
risk for fire danger. Exercise enhanced caution with activities
that involve open flames or sparks as fires can easily spread in
these weather conditions.

$$

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9 hours ago, TimB said:

And it’s gone.

Never trusted it. This winter the trend has been for an extremely fast flow which has just not allowed any of our arctic fronts to phase with southern energy. Seasonal trend is undefeated this winter.

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2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Yesterday’s tally of 3.3” matches the highest calendar day snowfall since the winter of 2021-2022. 3.3” also fell on February 16, 2024. The last time more snow fell was March 12, 2022, when 8.0” was observed.

Along those lines, we are now at 1091 days and counting with 3.3” of snow or less, and obviously very likely to add at least 250 more days to that streak. Previous record was 1015, from 2/20/1972 to 11/30/1974. That is the only other time we’ve gone two consecutive winters (let alone three) without recording 3.4” or more on a single day. 

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1 hour ago, TimB said:

Along those lines, we are now at 1091 days and counting with 3.3” of snow or less, and obviously very likely to add at least 250 more days to that streak. Previous record was 1015, from 2/20/1972 to 11/30/1974. That is the only other time we’ve gone two consecutive winters (let alone three) without recording 3.4” or more on a single day. 

Calendar day records are silly for snow. Snow “after midnight” still counts. 

The airport has also just missed some pretty robust localized events in that timeframe. Not saying the last 3 years have been good, but that’s a bit deceiving.

i didn’t look at official YTD, but we have to be ~33-34”. Really just needed 50 miles on one of those couple M/D like specials to have been real close to normal this year.  

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10 minutes ago, Burghblizz said:

Calendar day records are silly for snow. Snow “after midnight” still counts. 

The airport has also just missed some pretty robust localized events in that timeframe. Not saying the last 3 years have been good, but that’s a bit deceiving.

i didn’t look at official YTD, but we have to be ~33-34”. Really just needed 50 miles on one of those couple M/D like specials to have been real close to normal this year.  

Really that lake streamer the weekend before Christmas that dropped 1” at the airport and 4-6” in the north hills would have put us pretty damn close to normal. Some of us might be already pushing 40” in our backyards.

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17 minutes ago, TimB said:

Really that lake streamer the weekend before Christmas that dropped 1” at the airport and 4-6” in the north hills would have put us pretty damn close to normal. Some of us might be already pushing 40” in our backyards.

Agree - and that’s in addition to the storm misses south. So most people have the perception of this being a fairly snowy winter. Heard a lot of grunts and groans last night when people saw it snowing. 
 

Who knows - maybe we pull a March miracle with a bigger one. 

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1 hour ago, Burghblizz said:

Agree - and that’s in addition to the storm misses south. So most people have the perception of this being a fairly snowy winter. Heard a lot of grunts and groans last night when people saw it snowing. 
 

Who knows - maybe we pull a March miracle with a bigger one. 

Next chance I'd say is the 20th time-frame. Various models are teasing snow possibilities then. 

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Pittsburgh snow totals tend to be quite a localized thing.  Since we don't often get even-spread synoptic stuff, the banding results in widely varying totals across the area.

I know those of us in the south almost always get less than the official measurement location and places in the North Hills.  A result of the microclimates.  For that reason, I'd say the actual total isn't that important. 

Places that met or exceeded 30" this winter would be considered a win given the historical precedence combined with expectations.  It's also a big improvement over the last two years which probably makes it feel snowier.

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2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

https://twitter.com/nwspittsburgh/status/1899548043000623341?s=46

A daily record high temperature was broken at Wheeling,WV: 74°F. The old record was 72°F, set in 1927.
 
 
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Records today at Zanesville (76), Wheeling (77) & DuBois (70).

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