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27 when I left the house. I love where I sit for both today’s event and Monday’s, which is absolutely terrifying haha. I’ll be in Harrisburg today so won’t be able to give real time observations from home. Someone on the southern tier is gettin thumped I’m tellin ya, and by thumped I mean 2” lollipops ha. Could come down quick for a couple hours! 

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34 minutes ago, Superstorm said:

Euro is non event north of turnpike.


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Those folks up there were always fleeting IMO....unless these system ignored the known limitations of multiple of slps and how they react to each other.  BUT the Euro has not moved as much as the CMC, UK and GFS over the last week if you throw out the Euro's 0Z Mon run.  

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17 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

The Euro went south, but the NAM, ICON & GFS say otherwise.

Still a long way from consensus.

 

 

 

The GFS definitely shifted south from its 0z position, as did the GEFS (probably an even bigger shift in its snow axis). Might not make much of a difference for most currently, but it def does for our northern folks and Voyager. It was probably a bit too far north the last couple runs, but hopefully we can get the Euro to shift back to meet in the middle. Was just looking at the RGEM and that’s pretty low too with it’s heavy snow, but has more of a widespread lighter snow swath.

 

6z vs 0z GFS op

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How things were trending yesterday I thought for sure I’d wake up and find the heaviest axis around I 80 and more mixing down south, but not to be. I’m still being optimistic and hoping that there’s still a 48 hour north adjustment for euro.  Have too much time invested to give up 

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22 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

The GFS definitely shifted south from its 0z position, as did the GEFS (probably an even bigger shift in its snow axis). Might not make much of a difference for most currently, but it def does for our northern folks and Voyager. It was probably a bit too far north the last couple runs, but hopefully we can get the Euro to shift back to meet in the middle. Was just looking at the RGEM and that’s pretty low too with it’s heavy snow, but has more of a widespread lighter snow swath.

 

6z vs 0z GFS op

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6z Gem, which you can get on Meteocentre.com, went south and looks like the Rgem. But it does have the large swath of light snows as the Rgem, so there'sthat. 6z and 18z runs of the Gem only go out to 84 hrs like the Rgem so I can't say what the total would be.

All I can say is this is a real ball crusher after all those model runs of 4-8", or more. Gotta stop the bleeding at 12z. Gotta...or I get more snow today than Sunday/Monday I fear.

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Frigid low of 17 this AM.  Holding tight with my 2-4" for the LSV...yesterday euphorically posted that big snows were possible if the storm rode through N VA and did not transfer as early, as some models were showing, but the lesser qpf here models are now showing the vort feeling the effects of  the NE Canada low which I thought was the most sensical evolution.  A transfer to the Carolina coast not out of the question now...think the 18Z GFS showed something similar. 

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6 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

6z Gem, which you can get on Meteocentre.com, went south and looks like the Rgem. But it does have the large swath of light snows as the Rgem, so there'sthat. 6z and 18z runs of the Gem only go out to 84 hrs like the Rgem so I can't say what the total would be.

All I can say is this is a real ball crusher after all those model runs of 4-8", or more. Gotta stop the bleeding at 12z. Gotta...or I get more snow today than Sunday/Monday I fear.

Remember that if this thing goes through Central or Southern VA before going poof to the coast, what qpf we do get will translate well.  .2 could easily be 3-4".   This does not help those well north though. 

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1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said:

Remember that if this thing goes through Central or Southern VA before going poof to the coast, what qpf we do get will translate well.  .2 could easily be 3-4".   This does not help those well north though. 

Absolutely on the ratio potential, but if the trend doesn't stop, .05-.10" qpf is entirely possible. That's what I'm worried about frankly. 

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1 minute ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

I think once the actual storm forms & the confluence relaxes slightly, the southern third of PA will still be in for a moderate event.

Look, don't try to comfort me. I'm miserable physically from covid and I'm miserable mentally from this storm. Will you just let me be as miserable as possible? Lol

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56 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

The GFS definitely shifted south from its 0z position, as did the GEFS (probably an even bigger shift in its snow axis). Might not make much of a difference for most currently, but it def does for our northern folks and Voyager. It was probably a bit too far north the last couple runs, but hopefully we can get the Euro to shift back to meet in the middle. Was just looking at the RGEM and that’s pretty low too with it’s heavy snow, but has more of a widespread lighter snow swath.

I'm not greedy. I don't care if MD/VA/DC get 12-18 inches, just as long as I can get 6 inches +/-. Give me that and I'll be happy.

16 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Look, don't try to comfort me. I'm miserable physically from covid and I'm miserable mentally from this storm. Will you just let me be as miserable as possible? Lol

I don't need either of those things to make ME miserable. Life's been kicking me in the nuts ever since I came back from AZ. Current dilemma is that I need to drive an automatic truck due to shoulder issues, but have to go back in a manual because the guy who drives the truck I've BEEN using comes back from medical leave.

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4 minutes ago, canderson said:

Hope you feel Better asap. Everyone is sick - hospitals over the weekend were on diversion status due to capacity. 

Yes. Sorry @mitchnick. I should have also said that I hope you feel better soon. Being sick sucks. Luckily, I've been able to (so far) avoid any of the bugs that have been hitting so many folks lately.

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1 minute ago, canderson said:

Hope you feel Better asap. Everyone is sick - hospitals over the weekend were on diversion status due to capacity. 

Yeah, I'm lucky. My daughter is a nurse at the hospital, and she said that they've been getting patients with blood clots caused by covid. Hopefully I don't develop those.

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Light snow should arrive from west to east across Chester and Berks counties during the 2pm hour this afternoon. The timing is not great as the steadiest snow will fall during rush hour. There should be at most an inch or so over the area. We turn colder this weekend with temperatures remaining below freezing for at least the next week. The next winter event looks like it will arrive overnight Sunday into Monday morning. Most of the ensemble models keep the more significant snow south of the Mason Dixon Line. That said most areas will see at least a couple inches with more as you go south in Chester County toward Maryland.

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