Central PA Winter 2024/2025

[Bubbler86]

12 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Cold

Things the GFS does not show for us? 

[mitchnick]

10 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Things the GFS does not show for us? 

Things that are now...and the wacky Cfs2 sporadically, and often inexplicably, shows in the future. Often by itself. Lol

[sauss06]

10 hours ago, canderson said:

PSU is in even if they get blown out by Oregon. But LOL at Alabama being a lock like they are. Every year, criteria changes to get them in whatever. 
 

If someone farts wrong, PSU will be out. People just don't like them. 

[pawatch]

26 degrees this morning, not real impressed with this Thursday’s storm. Been to windy to go fishing. 
Canderson move the trash cans to the garage. 

[Itstrainingtime]

19 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

If someone farts wrong, PSU will be out. People just don't like them. 

This. 

It's Sandusky related. 

[canderson]

Yall laugh but there will be. A fair number of prolonged 50+ mph gusts overnight and throughout Thursday. 

[Itstrainingtime]

23 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Things that are now...and the wacky Cfs2 sporadically, and often inexplicably, shows in the future. Often by itself. Lol

There's MU's 12/20 - 1/10 bitter cold air mass he talked about in his Winter Outlook back on November 1st. Watch it verify. 

[sauss06]

3 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

This. 

It's Sandusky related. 

exactly. I could talk for hours about it, but i won't. . My BP rises 

[sauss06]

i gotta be honest fellas, i use to cherish the cold. The older i get it can F off. 

[Itstrainingtime]

Just now, sauss06 said:

i gotta be honest fellas, i use to cherish the cold. The older i get it can F off. 

I might have even put a windbreaker on this morning.   That was unthinkable a few years ago. 

[mitchnick]

13 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

There's MU's 12/20 - 1/10 bitter cold air mass he talked about in his Winter Outlook back on November 1st. Watch it verify. 

Every time people mention MU I think of the pastor of my church. He started out a Met major at MU in the mid-2010's but ended up a political science major because of the math. By the time he graduated, he got the calling and ended up in the Seminary. 

[ChescoWx]

We remain below normal through Saturday before a nice warmup gets underway on Sunday. Some snow flurries could develop later this evening. A strong cold front will sweep from west to east sometime just before rush hour tomorrow morning. Some spots could see a briefly heavy snow squall. Any squall could leave a quick coating to 1/2 inch of snow. Tomorrow will be very windy with temperatures falling from an early morning high just above freezing. Most spots will struggle to get above the freezing mark on Friday. Warmer with rain chances by next Monday morning's rush hour.

[mitchnick]

5 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

i gotta be honest fellas, i use to cherish the cold. The older i get it can F off. 

It does get harder as you get older, but I  can still get used to it. My bigger issue is every time I hear the furnace goes on I cringe. Lol

[Bubbler86]

11 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

i gotta be honest fellas, i use to cherish the cold. The older i get it can F off. 

The wind does me in.  40 and 25MPH wind is worse than 10 and no wind.   It is MUCH windier here than Florida. 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

1 hour ago, canderson said:

Yall laugh but there will be. A fair number of prolonged 50+ mph gusts overnight and throughout Thursday. 

You're not wrong.  Winds are the big story tomorrow, just howling out of the west.  That pressure gradient is something else.

[mitchnick]

On an unrelated note, new Wawa in Dover opens tomorrow. Hanover supposed to be before the end of the year. Yippee! Can't wait to be the first to try the bathrooms. It's an oldster thing, ya' know. 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

My thoughts on PSU:

I don't think they'll be punished much, if at all, for losing to Oregon.  I mean, someone has to lose these conference championship games, and I don't think the committee wants to set the precedent that reaching your conference championship can hurt you (I believe they've said as much).  Let alone if you lose to the #1 overall team in a semi-competitive game.  Now, if one team absolutely hammers the other it could change the rankings around the margins, but I don't see PSU dropping below hosting a first-round playoff game and I certainly don't see them dropping out altogether.  As for the Bama thing, yeah, I think we all know where this is headed haha.

Additionally, I actually think PSU has a decent shot at beating Oregon.  The schedule results have been very similar, as well as the statistics.  Sure, their offense will put up numbers, but I think our defense will hold up well enough.  To me, the bigger issue is Oregon's underrated defense and can PSU score enough to match Oregon's output.  Big questions there.  Oregon is the rightful favorite but there's no reason this shouldn't be a decent game.

Also, are we sure it's better to be the #1 overall seed?  That matchup with the 8/9 winner looks more brutal than say the 5/12.  Plus, you miss out on hosting a game, which is the coolest part.  I also don't like my team sitting too long while the other team is coming off a spirited win.  I believe the whole format is going to need reworked.  The auto-byes given out to the four conference champs (and/or the highest ranked non-P4 team) are going to make for imbalanced brackets that, over time, will cause consternation.  Just one man's thoughts. 

[Bubbler86]

5 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

My thoughts on PSU:

I don't think they'll be punished much, if at all, for losing to Oregon.  I mean, someone has to lose these conference championships games, and I don't think the committee wants to set the precedent that reaching your conference championship can hurt you (I believe they've said as much).  Let alone if you lose to the #1 overall team in a semi-competitive game.  Now, if one team absolutely hammers the other it could change the rankings around the margins, but I don't see PSU dropping below hosting a first-round playoff game and I certainly don't see them dropping out altogether.  As for the Bama thing, yeah, I think we all know where this is headed haha.

Additionally, I actually think PSU has a decent shot at beating Oregon.  The schedule results have been very similar, as well as the statistics.  Sure, their offense will put up numbers, but I think our defense will hold up well enough.  To me, the bigger issue is Oregon's underrated defense and can PSU score enough to match Oregon's output.  Big questions there.  Oregon is the rightful favorite but there's no reason this shouldn't be a decent game.

Also, are we sure it's better to be the #1 overall seed?  That matchup with the 8/9 winner looks more brutal than say the 5/12.  Plus, you miss out on hosting a game, which is the coolest part.  I also don't like my team sitting too long while the other team is coming off a spirited win.  I believe the whole format is going to need reworked.  The auto-byes given out to the four conference champs (and/or the highest ranked non-P5 team) are going to make for imbalanced brackets that, over time, will cause consternation.  Just one man's thoughts. 

So who drops out then if Clemson beats SMU in a close game?    SMU?  Doubt it if PSU gets hammered...and it gives them the chance to keep Alabama in if PSU drops too far.  That is the precedent for sports writers suggesting PSU needs to show well. PSU sort of backed into the title game.   Boise State is not a forgone conclusion to win either.   If they lose, that is someone else who has to go.   I think PSU is in trouble if SMU and/or Boise State lose and PSU gets hammered.  We are nit picking at random, somewhat unlikely circumstances here but the point of my original post was that if OSU had defeated Michigan, PSU's spot would probably be even more assured. 

[canderson]

11 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

So who drops out then if Clemson beats SMU in a close game?    SMU?  Doubt it if PSU gets hammered...and it gives them the chance to keep Alabama in if PSU drops too far.  That is the precedent for sports writers suggesting PSU needs to show well. PSU sort of backed into the title game.   Boise State is not a forgone conclusion to win either.   If they lose, that is someone else who has to go.   I think PSU is in trouble if SMU and/or Boise State lose and PSU gets hammered.  We are nit picking at random, somewhat unlikely circumstances here but the point of my original post was that if OSU had defeated Michigan, PSU's spot would probably be even more assured. 

If SMU loses, I feel certain they'll leave them out. 

But hey Alabama going on the road to play OSU or ND will be fun I guess ..... 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

Agreed if OSU had won PSU would be assured of their positioning and of hosting a home game.  But I disagree about PSU dropping out under any scenario.  I just don't think you drop from #3 to out of the whole dance for losing to the #1 overall team.  I don't think the committee would do that, especially from a conference championship game standpoint.  Heck, OSU just lost at home to a five-loss team and dropped what, a few spots?  I think the rankings are fairly set at this point.  If Clemson wins, I believe they and SMU will get in and Bama will be left out.  I was being a bit facetious with my Bama comment.  I get the worries of others but I don't think the committee will bend over for them.  The Boise thing makes no difference.  The non-P4 teams get one rep, whether that's Boise or someone else doesn't matter, just one rep.  No slot-stealing from that group.  We'll all find out in five days.  

[Bubbler86]

4 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Agreed if OSU had won PSU would be assured of their positioning and of hosting a home game.  But I disagree about PSU dropping out under any scenario.  I just don't think you drop from #3 to out of the whole dance for losing to the #1 overall team.  I don't think the committee would do that, especially from a conference championship game standpoint.  Heck, OSU just lost at home to a five-loss team and dropped what, a few spots?  I think the rankings are fairly set at this point.  If Clemson wins, I believe they and SMU will get in and Bama will be left out.  I was being a bit facetious with my Bama comment.  I get the worries of others but I don't think the committee will bend over for them.  The Boise thing makes no difference.  The non-P4 teams get one rep, whether that's Boise or someone doesn't matter, just one rep.  No slot-stealing from that group.  We'll all find out in five days.  

5 minutes ago, canderson said:

If SMU loses, I feel certain they'll leave them out. 

But hey Alabama going on the road to play OSU or ND will be fun I guess ..... 

I don't totally agree on the Boise or SMU thing (different points from each of you) but could be wrong of course.  They are both on 9+ game winning streaks.  Neither should be bumped for losing the title game (if competitive)  especially Boise.  What I think and what will happen could be different.  But if PSU lost 49-7, random score, they very easily could drop out of the top 10 rankings.   A 3 loss Alabama Team may get in over a 2 Loss PSU team. 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

4 minutes ago, canderson said:

If SMU loses, I feel certain they'll leave them out. 

But hey Alabama going on the road to play OSU or ND will be fun I guess ..... 

I believe the committee has stated on the record that they don't want to punish teams too harshly for having to play that extra game.  The goal is not to disincentivize teams from reaching their conference championship games.  I could be wrong.  The Bama angle certainly adds intrigue. 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

7 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

I don't totally agree on the Boise or SMU thing (different points from each of you) but could be wrong of course.  They are both on 9+ game winning streaks.  Neither should be bumped for losing the title game (if competitive)  especially Boise.  What I think and what will happen could be different.  But if PSU lost 49-7, random score, they very easily could drop out of the top 10 rankings.   A 3 loss Alabama Team may get in over a 2 Loss PSU team. 

I just think it's hard to square the circle that if PSU had not reached the conference championship game they'd be locked into that 5-8 range and hosting a playoff game, but if they do reach the title game they can miss the playoffs outright.  That's tough.  But you're right about one thing, it would certainly behoove Penn State to not lay a total goose egg Saturday night haha.

[sauss06]

This is why we play on the field fellas..........put the women and children to bed...........its time to buckle the chin straps and lace up the cleats

[Itstrainingtime]

51 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Also, are we sure it's better to be the #1 overall seed?  That matchup with the 8/9 winner looks more brutal than say the 5/12.  Plus, you miss out on hosting a game, which is the coolest part.  I also don't like my team sitting too long while the other team is coming off a spirited win.  I believe the whole format is going to need reworked.  The auto-byes given out to the four conference champs (and/or the highest ranked non-P4 team) are going to make for imbalanced brackets that, over time, will cause consternation.  Just one man's thoughts. 

This is exactly what I've questioned multiple times in here. I'm honestly hoping for a 5/12 matchup. 

[Bubbler86]

15 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

I just think it's hard to square the circle that if PSU had not reached the conference championship game they'd be locked into that 5-8 range and hosting a playoff game, but if they do reach the title game they can miss the playoffs outright.  That's tough.  But you're right about one thing, it would certainly behoove Penn State to not lay a total goose egg Saturday night haha.

One thing in PSU''s favor, Oregon gets no advantage from beating up PSU.  All they needs is to win. 

[sauss06]

8 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

One thing in PSU''s favor, Oregon gets no advantage from beating up PSU.  All they needs is to win. 

If is a big word, but "if" PSU defense shows up 4 quarters, start to finish, they win.

[Itstrainingtime]

36 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Agreed if OSU had won PSU would be assured of their positioning and of hosting a home game.  But I disagree about PSU dropping out under any scenario.  I just don't think you drop from #3 to out of the whole dance for losing to the #1 overall team.  I don't think the committee would do that, especially from a conference championship game standpoint.  Heck, OSU just lost at home to a five-loss team and dropped what, a few spots?  I think the rankings are fairly set at this point.  If Clemson wins, I believe they and SMU will get in and Bama will be left out.  I was being a bit facetious with my Bama comment.  I get the worries of others but I don't think the committee will bend over for them.  The Boise thing makes no difference.  The non-P4 teams get one rep, whether that's Boise or someone else doesn't matter, just one rep.  No slot-stealing from that group.  We'll all find out in five days.  

I believe that as of now, Alabama would be in, correct? What I'm reading right from the horse's mouth is that the Tide are essentially in. 

The Committee chairman said this last night specific to Alabama and in general to other teams: “Those who are not playing [in conference championship games], we will not adjust those teams.” Manuel told ESPN.

 

[canderson]

8 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

One thing in PSU''s favor, Oregon gets no advantage from beating up PSU.  All they needs is to win. 

Oregon is playing for a bye. You might argue the layoff with the bye is too long though. 

[Bubbler86]

1 minute ago, canderson said:

Oregon is playing for a bye. You might argue the layoff with the bye is too long though. 

True but they get it if they win 21-20 or 51-0.