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19 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

I’m hearing of power outages down south from the incoming wind

17 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

If we get 55-65 we can probably assume the worst here AND despite the drought, the ground is quite wet at the top layer right now for smaller/more shallow trees. 

Yes, the wind is definitely going to be a problem. We've had an ongoing wind/tree problem here all winter. In fact, one event bit me in the ass back in early January. I was coming off the Blue Mountain northbound and as I rounded a bend in the road, a tree had fallen and lowered the wires that crossed over 309. Lucky me. I was the first tractor trailer there, and I caught those low wires with the trailer and snapped a telephone pole and brought every wire completely down across the road, and caused a royal mess. Cops took the report, said it wasn't my fault, and sent me on my way, but it tied up traffic there for over half a day.

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5 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

It was announced on abc27 this morning.

Do not go over Peters Mountain if you don't have too. It is a solid sheet of slush and ice. I am currently stranded at the top and cars are stuck everywhere. It is 618 Sunday morning

When we were looking for a place in 2018 we looked from Adamstown to Hometown to areas up 11/15 and eventually over here...and the number one thing my wife eventually found is she wanted nothing to do with coming into the Harrisburg area from the mountains to the north. 

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Low of 33 and currently 35. 24-Hr QPF was .6”. Pleasantly surprised to still have a yard full of snow. Temp rise here has been much slower than forecasted. Now we prepare for some vicious winds ugh. Stinks to see the trends for the midweek storm. This one really stings given what all the models were showing just a couple of days ago, granted they were still a week out so big changes were expected. Not throwing in the towel yet, at all, but at the very least the big dog scenario seems to be mostly off the table. We’ll see what the next 24 hours bring but the trend most of the season has been for things to get shunted south and east. Fingers crossed for at least a light to moderate type overrunning event. Happy Sunday, all. 

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13 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

When we were looking for a place in 2018 we looked from Adamstown to Hometown to areas up 11/15 and eventually over here...and the number one thing my wife eventually found is she wanted nothing to do with coming into the Harrisburg area from the mountains to the north. 

Have you always been whipped? Lol:P

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14 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

The reason you just posted, high chance of winter weather issue that are not present anywhere else. 

That must have been bad on Peters Mountain this morning State Police were there like rescuing people that were stranded. Peters mountain as I keep saying is a dividing line on the weather between the Lower Susquehanna and the Middle Susquehanna.

May be an image of ‎map and ‎text that says '‎8:14 Sun Feb 16 Enter your destination New Buffalo ד 98% Closure x Winter weather on PA 225 both directions between CLARKS VALLEY and PETERS MOUNTAIN MOUN RDRIVER lanes closed, closed.Intersection CLARKS VALLEY RD MIDDLE PAXTON [2TWP1- Intersection PETERS MOUNTAIN RDRIVER RD in HALIFAX [2TWP] Severity: ArcherySupply Archery Supply পাচনা Start Time: Unknown Anticipated End Time 2025 6:01 am Last Updated: Feb 16, 2025 at 08:30 AM Feb 16 2025 6:24 am Appalachian Trall O 225 3 nno. Quido Maps Lega 出 125 511)‎'‎‎

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It is the first high wind warning since February 2019, per CTP. That storm took out a lot of my siding and some shingles.  I fear a tree coming down on us overnight. 

No sleep for me the next 36 or so hours. Winds won’t calm down Tuesday afternoon. They’re going to have to extend wind headlines into Tuesday.

This is going to suuuuuuuxk 

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1 hour ago, mitchnick said:

It's become entertaining how every model is jumping around like I have honestly not seen. Sorry to see the 6z Euro drop east some but Eps had a bigger jump se. It would be nice if the Nam with one of its classic NW jumps was correct.

In the end, this strikes me as the first big storm of the season when Sby got around a foot and I got 3". 

It's almost as if we should relegate 100+ hour model discussion to a separate thread for wish casting. 

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18 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Not throwing in the towel yet, at all, but at the very least the big dog scenario seems to be mostly off the table. We’ll see what the next 24 hours bring but the trend most of the season has been for things to get shunted south and east. Fingers crossed for at least a light to moderate type overrunning event. Happy Sunday, all. 

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14 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

That must have been bad on Peters Mountain this morning State Police were there like rescuing people that were stranded. Peters mountain as I keep saying is a dividing line on the weather between the Lower Susquehanna and the Middle Susquehanna.

May be an image of ‎map and ‎text that says '‎8:14 Sun Feb 16 Enter your destination New Buffalo ד 98% Closure x Winter weather on PA 225 both directions between CLARKS VALLEY and PETERS MOUNTAIN MOUN RDRIVER lanes closed, closed.Intersection CLARKS VALLEY RD MIDDLE PAXTON [2TWP1- Intersection PETERS MOUNTAIN RDRIVER RD in HALIFAX [2TWP] Severity: ArcherySupply Archery Supply পাচনা Start Time: Unknown Anticipated End Time 2025 6:01 am Last Updated: Feb 16, 2025 at 08:30 AM Feb 16 2025 6:24 am Appalachian Trall O 225 3 nno. Quido Maps Lega 出 125 511)‎'‎‎

We were looking in the 209 corridor.  Quite the different world there.  

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10 minutes ago, WmsptWx said:

It's almost as if we should relegate 100+ hour model discussion to a separate thread for wish casting. 

I think everyone realizes that model forecasts beyond 48-72 hours are not to be taken as gospel. Otoh and maybe unfortunately, they are correct beyond 72 hours in rare circumstances and when we see the kind of snowfall many runs they  were showing this week, weenies naturally want them to be correct this time. 

As such, as long as models generate forecast past 48 or 78 hours, I don't think anything will change.

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12 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

How is having a meteorological discussion of why a model is doing something a wish cast?  LOL.   Now if you mean the snow maps, which I do sometimes too, then carry on. 

Yes. To clarify, I mean the snow maps. 

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14 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

How is having a meteorological discussion of why a model is doing something a wish cast?  LOL.   Now if you mean the snow maps, which I do sometimes too, then carry on. 

Exactly, thanks & snow maps are just showing model output. Just because a poster posts a map doesn’t necessarily mean that is their forecast or that it should be believed. We just show what an official weather model had for that particular run.
Also those of us that have been doing this for decades know that storms can show on the models, get “lost” for a day or 2 and then come back to original ideas sometimes.

Maybe some people on here should find another board if they don’t like or understand how things work in this hobby or profession for some.

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12 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Exactly, thanks & snow maps are just showing model output. Just because a poster posts a map doesn’t necessarily mean that is their forecast or that it should be believed. We just show what an official weather model had for that particular run.
Also those of us that have been doing this for decades know that storms can show on the models, get “lost” for a day or 2 and then come back to original ideas sometimes.

Maybe some people on here should find another board if they don’t like or understand how things work in this hobby or profession for some.

The snow maps do not bother me and on this board in particular they seem to be popular but if someone says they see folly in posting snow maps with no science behind them/explanation of why, then I cannot argue too much as they do have a valid point (though again I am not a fan of separate boards or moderation.)   Many, many, many snow maps are posted for naught if you look at it after the fact.   To me the Snow maps are the fun side of the board but not fun for everyone I guess. 

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Storm summary for yesterday:

1.8” snow

0.4” IP

.10” ZR

0.66” liquid 

On a sad note there was a fatal car accident on Cold Springs Rd this morning.   I’m sure it was icy and foggy up there at an elevation of 1600ft.   Still only 31.9 currently 

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Low in Central GA.  A good one.  PV/Center of high still sitting in Canada.  Note how the contours are pointing NE up through PA but still East to West down in VA.   That will limit how far north it can get at this stage (without a phase).  The Nam will be a fairly decent snow storm in the LSV.  GL with the other models at 12Z.  My PBB work is done for the afternoon. 

 

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44 minutes ago, paweather said:

What does it matter a snow map is a model discussion. It is not the actual weather until it would happen. If you don’t like it go to another forum or board. Get over it and ignore it if you need to! 

Your "love it or leave it attitude" fucking sucks. 

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45 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Low in Central GA.  A good one.  PV/Center of high still sitting in Canada.  Note how the contours are pointing NE up through PA but still East to West down in VA.   That will limit how far north it can get at this stage (without a phase).  The Nam will be a fairly decent snow storm in the LSV.  GL with the other models at 12Z.  My PBB work is done for the afternoon. 

 

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Yes, here’s the end of the NAM at 84 hours with more to go this run if it continued.

All long range NAM caveats aside, it shows another potential option to get at least a moderate event to the LSV. 
 

12z NAM 

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