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2 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

All we need is 25-50 miles in 72 hours. That's doable.

The 0z Euro overall precip shield ticked north over its 18z run. The light blue is a little further north in northern PA this run.

Get in the main shield & turn it will come down to banding.

We have time in the LSV to get back to low end Warning amounts in the LSV.

If not, I could live with 3 or 4 inches of snow this time.

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5 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

The 0z Euro overall precip shield ticked north over its 18z run. The light blue is a little further north in northern PA this run.

Get in the main shield & turn it will come down to banding.

We have time in the LSV to get back to low end Warning amounts in the LSV.

If not, I could live with 3 or 4 inches of snow this time.

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The Kuchera numbers are lower on Pivotal.  WxBell are always the highest. I seem to be stuck at 4-5". Not bad, but I  always look at my old home and when I see they're double me, my blood boils. Lol The only reason why I moved up here without a fight (with my wife) was the snow.

Of course, the last event when I got 6.5" and they got 1", I  was fine. Lol

But that's the way it used to be. I swear the number of events where BWI got more snow than Hanover has been incredible vs before I moved here. It was rare before, now it's commonplace. Global warming my a$$!

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Here's my wrap up for the storm...

I recorded 0.6" of sleet (which was less than Thursday).  That 0.6" of sleet melted down to 0.36" giving an SLR of 6:1.  It very likely was not that high because of an unknown level of freezing rain which occurred throughout most of the event to varying degrees.  I recorded 0.01" more of freezing rain after the sleet ended around 10pm which gave me a melted storm total of 0.37".  Enough freezing rain fell on top of the sleet to create a pretty hard glaze.  It was hard enough that I could walk on it and not sink into the sleet.  I think it is safe to say that the combo of sleet and freezing rain glaze will help keep a fair amount of this mixture around until the start of the Tuesday storm, which I believe is now going to be dubbed "storm #1".  Finally, the temperature has been rising very slowly for the past several hours and is now up to 31.3 degrees at 1:43am.  Double finally...it certainly is encouraging to see improvement across the board for storm #1.  A rough average of all the posted models puts me between 3" and 3.5".  That sure beats 1" from last night.

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@CASH_COOP
It might be time for you to yet again talk to CTP…

How the heck did they only record .1 of “snow” yesterday after several hours of sleet?

They had several hours as “freezing rain/ice pellets” that should have added up to at least several tenths of what goes in the books as snow.

Many of us not far away from MDT had near 1 inch of sleet or more…

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5 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

@CASH_COOP
It might be time for you to yet again talk to CTP…

How the heck did they only record .1 of “snow” yesterday after several hours of sleet?

They had several hours as “freezing rain/ice pellets” that should have added up to at least several tenths of what goes in the books as snow.

Many of us not far away from MDT had near 1 inch of sleet or more…

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Agreed!

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Just now, mahantango#1 said:

Agreed!

It really doesn’t matter much, but I just want them to get it right.

We had hours of heavy sleet that needed plowed here in Marysville.

Heck, even @canderson said he had 1.5” of sleet in the heat island of downtown Harrisburg.

Somehow MDT gets .1 … I don’t buy it for one second!

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21 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

@CASH_COOP
It might be time for you to yet again talk to CTP…

How the heck did they only record .1 of “snow” yesterday after several hours of sleet?

They had several hours as “freezing rain/ice pellets” that should have added up to at least several tenths of what goes in the books as snow.

Many of us not far away from MDT had near 1 inch of sleet or more…

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Agreed seems low.  I managed .3” of sleet and I was on the edge of the heavier precip.   Let’s see if they adjust first.  Maybe the decimal point was put in the wrong place ?!

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.2” of IP/ZR accumulation off of .28” liquid here in West Hempfield. Just not enough action down here south of the turnpike but to be fair the models did a pretty good job illustrating that disparity. Happy to hear the jogs north have begun for the Tue/Wed timeframe. I think we’ll be in for a solid 3-4” type of event but will hone in more after the big game today. Good luck to all the birds fans out there. It’s not often you can say this but for today most of the country is rooting for Philly ha. 

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1 hour ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

@CASH_COOP
It might be time for you to yet again talk to CTP…

How the heck did they only record .1 of “snow” yesterday after several hours of sleet?

They had several hours as “freezing rain/ice pellets” that should have added up to at least several tenths of what goes in the books as snow.

Many of us not far away from MDT had near 1 inch of sleet or more…

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Yes...my observation was 0.5" with 0.33" liquid.  And my location is ~2 miles SSW of KMDT...We had heavy sleet for over an hour last evening...and I do mean heavy to the point the plows came through and pushed the accumulated sleet off the roads...

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5 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Yeah, but it's basically a rain storm. Might be some front end frozen, but the slp passes west of the Appalachians. Euro isn't much better.

if I remember a few days ago most of the models were showing this Tuesday to be a central PA hit and then the gfs had that one run with a big move south and only came back north modestly and the rest of the models trended towards it.  maybe the gfs is onto something for the weekend storm.  time will tell.

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10 minutes ago, kdskidoo said:

if I remember a few days ago most of the models were showing this Tuesday to be a central PA hit and then the gfs had that one run with a big move south and only came back north modestly and the rest of the models trended towards it.  maybe the gfs is onto something for the weekend storm.  time will tell.

Would definitely give the gfs and Ggem camp a chance considering at range the euro hasn’t represented the pattern or blocking well. 

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13 minutes ago, kdskidoo said:

if I remember a few days ago most of the models were showing this Tuesday to be a central PA hit and then the gfs had that one run with a big move south and only came back north modestly and the rest of the models trended towards it.  maybe the gfs is onto something for the weekend storm.  time will tell.

I'm just saying what it shows. Who knows what it will end up being.

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37 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

I'm riding 2-4" with 2" north of the turnpike up to 4" at the M/D line. I don't see any reason to change. 

If we want a big dog the week of 2/20 I think we want next weekend to cut. And I think it will.

2-4” would be fine not in the bullseye but good. 

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