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51 minutes ago, AccuChris said:

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Again, I have to ask. When is the last time the entire Commonwealth Philadelphia notwithstanding had this amount of snow on the ground? 

 

I know this is an aggregate and not for one individual storm, but I just don't see it. Am I to believe one storm will pound 80-North and one storm 80-South? Not a chance.

I'll ask again: When was the last time a single snowstorm dropped more than 10" on Emporium? This would either require a doubling of that, or a storm that triples that amount. 

 

I think the next week plus is pie in the sky.

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High today 35.6.  Temp has dropped back to 34.3 with a dew point of 17.8.  Overcast has varied with a bit of sun getting through, but generally no sun for most of today.  I think the key to how far temps can drop after the precip gets going is the wet bulb.  Mine is currently 28.6.  That gives wiggle room to get below freezing by the time precip begins.  My PNC from NWS this morning had for the overnight..."sleet, possibly heavy at times...".  That's something you don't see often.

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14 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

MU downgrading tonight's system to .01" to .10" of ice accretion. Yesterday it was up to .15". Still forecasting a trace to 2" of sleet prior to that. 

Sleet is one thing but FRZ with temps 29-32 just does not scare me especially since a good bit of it is during daylight.   Trees get glaze but not roads so much.   We get a sleet bomb then that is like a minor snow storm and roads suck. 

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20 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

I do.  I root for maximum winter, in all its forms, at all times.  Yes, I'm a psycho haha.

 

19 minutes ago, paweather said:

Yeah I do I love winter weather that’s what this is. 

If I nor my family had to be out in it, sign me up as well. 100%. 

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2 hours ago, WmsptWx said:

Again, I have to ask. When is the last time the entire Commonwealth Philadelphia notwithstanding had this amount of snow on the ground? 

 

I know this is an aggregate and not for one individual storm, but I just don't see it. Am I to believe one storm will pound 80-North and one storm 80-South? Not a chance.

I'll ask again: When was the last time a single snowstorm dropped more than 10" on Emporium? This would either require a doubling of that, or a storm that triples that amount. 

 

I think the next week plus is pie in the sky.

The thing with this pattern coming up in this timeframe is it’s likely that kind of a monster swath of snow is going to materialize in some form in the aggregate sense. Perhaps not as wide, but there’s going to be a swath of big winners from this pattern. Overall as I mentioned a couple days I think it’ll be an upstate NY and New England being the biggest beneficiaries, as they’re also going to total decent snows from tonight and Saturday’s event. That doesn’t mean we can’t score a decent snow event or two.

The big driver in northern PA’s big totals on the 12z Euro (about 30” of it) mostly came from the modeled long duration event that was way out in like D12 or so. To answer your question, the last time northern PA had a swath like that was the December 2020 storm. That had a band of 2-3+ feet of snow up there, including Emporium over to Renovo and on northeast. I do believe it was also the original wsptwx’s biggest ever snowstorm as well.

I think our best opportunity to score a decent area wide snow event that has limited or no mixing is going to come from the thing that’s progged near mid week next week. And there’s a lot to resolve with that, but that seems like the timeframe that lines up with the boundary perhaps being low enough. Beyond I don’t quite think the pattern is going to go really cold yet and we’re going to continue to ride the line. We’re in phase 6 of the MJO right now and models are varying with the speed at which that moves into 7 and eventually the colder phases. We also have some mixed teleconnection signals coming up while we otherwise maintain -NAO/AO and have AK ridging. We’re lucky we’re in the game given the phase 6 MJO, that’s traditionally the torchiest of the torchy phases in JFM. I do still think the eventual end game this month is it will get quite cold with respect to average, but that may be more during the second half of the month. 

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