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Central PA Winter 2024/2025


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31 minutes ago, anotherman said:


I know he knows what he’s talking about, but the “sadly“ is so pathetic. Go live somewhere else if you don’t like winter.

That's easier said than done. If I want to escape my winter misery, I have to divorce my wife because she isn't going anywhere.

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1 minute ago, Voyager said:

That's easier said than done. If I want to escape my winter misery, I have to divorce my wife because she isn't going anywhere.

It won't last forever, so you've got that going for you. And we all know we can do warm just fine around here, though your area takes a little longer to defrost than down here.

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49 minutes ago, anotherman said:


I know he knows what he’s talking about, but the “sadly“ is so pathetic. Go live somewhere else if you don’t like winter.

Paul Knight (from Weather World fame) might be the most accurate forecaster I know of in my lifetime. He lives just outside of State College. He HATES cold weather with a passion. 

It's interesting how some of the people we look up to in forecasting aren't anything like we are.

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32 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

He said something about wall to wall warmer/not cold for Feb, just going from other posts, so he is not going to like how that has changed.    March is too far out to be guesstimating IMO. 

He said he's leaning warm for February with multiple cold shots. I think we were talking about this last week. "Setbacks"

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49 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

He said he's leaning warm for February with multiple cold shots. I think we were talking about this last week. "Setbacks"

I went back and looked and it was actually not him, it was this post and interpretation so sorry if I suggested it was him.    I actually did not read what he said at that point in Jan to suggest your take on but my thought is right now it appears to be that Feb has a very good chance of being BN so I figured he was not happy with the turn of events.  It is just a model run but if the GFS were right we would be a good 3-5 degrees BN when hitting the last third of Feb.  Only one high out of the 15 panels is AN. 

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11 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

I went back and looked and it was actually not him, it was this post and interpretation so sorry if I suggested it was him.    I actually did not read what he said at that point in Jan to suggest your take on but my thought is right now it appears to be that Feb has a very good chance of being BN so I figured he was not happy with the turn of events.  It is just a model run but if the GFS were right we would be a good 3-5 degrees BN when hitting the last third of Feb.  Only one high out of the 15 panels is AN. 

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Yeesh, I need to be better than that. I misquoted him. I thought we were joking about setbacks, which was in his post.

No wonder you posted what you did.

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Just now, Itstrainingtime said:

Yeesh, I need to be better than that. I misquoted him. I thought we were joking about setbacks, which was in his post.

No wonder you posted what you did.

I am sorry, was not trying to offend.  I remembered the wall-to-wall term.   At that time, and even as soon as two days ago, Feb looked middling at best but as of this moment it looks very cold.  Whether it snows or not is always up for interpretation but someone quoted that MU was unhappy (joking I assume) about the Hog and I figured he was probably unhappy because he loves warm and warm Feb looks a lot less likely now than it did a few days ago,  

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1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said:

I am sorry, was not trying to offend.  I remembered the wall-to-wall term.   At that time, and even as soon as two days ago, Feb looked middling at best but as of this moment it looks very cold.  Whether it snows or not is always up for interpretation but someone quoted that MU was unhappy (joking I assume) about the Hog and I figured he was probably unhappy because he loves warm and warm Feb looks a lot less likely now than it did a few days ago,  

Elliott and Chuck are both on the March train. Both are not enthused about March. 

Hope they're both wrong.

About February. :)

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Hazardous Weather Outlook
National Weather Service State College PA
309 PM EST Sun Feb 2 2025

PAZ026>028-034-035-049>053-056>059-063-032015-
Huntingdon-Mifflin-Juniata-Bedford-Fulton-Union-Snyder-Montour-
Northumberland-Columbia-Perry-Dauphin-Schuylkill-Lebanon-Cumberland-
309 PM EST Sun Feb 2 2025

This Hazardous Weather Outlook is for central Pennsylvania.

.DAY ONE...This afternoon and tonight.

A light accumulation of snow between a coating and one half of an
inch into this evening could be followed by a light glaze of ice
from patchy freezing drizzle later tonight.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...Monday through Saturday.

Two winter storms may impact the area, one mid-week and another next
weekend. Both storms may generate a wintry mix with the possibility
for plowable snow or ice accumulations.

 

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17 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Elliott and Chuck are both on the March train. Both are not enthused about March. 

Hope they're both wrong.

About February. :)

I know there is disdain for off topic here but I am dealing with the worst trade in NBA history (as of now) so hard to be happy posting.  But really did not mean to offend, I was sort of defending MU and saying he is probably not happy.   

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✳️ALERT ✳️ 2nd HALF OF WINTER LOOKING SERIOUS ...POSSIBLY SEVERE ...

 

➡️ Do NOT be fooled by this mild across much of the eastern CONUS FEB 3-9 ⬅️

 

MORE DETAILS IN THE NEW EDITION OF THE NEXT 3 WEEKS NEWSLETTER ON MONDAY

 

There is no doubt now that the PV - Polar Vortex IS going to undergo a significant stretching and potentially SPLIT into 2 sections. Some of the models split the PV into two distinct centers while others elongated the PV and then bring it back into an oval or elliptical shape (as opposed to a tight closed Circular PV) by the end of February.

 

In either case it represents a significant change so AFTER THIS WEEK FEB 3 -9 of Spring like conditions in the eastern US, there is no doubt in my mind that the winter is going to come roaring back sometime after February 9/10.

 

Indeed the last two runs of the operational European are picking up on two different threats in the Middle Atlantic and Ohio valley.   

 

First it is Rain changing to snow behind the strong cold front on February 9/10 in MD DEL most of VA eastern KY and eastern WV.  

 

This is followed by a potentially major Ohio Valley /Mid-Atlantic snowstorm on February 11- 12. Interestingly this event has shown up now in the last three runs of the operational European.

 

The change is driven that the -EPO (aka the ALASKAN BLOCK ) that which is currently in the western Alaska. As the PV begins to split... the BLOCK/ -EPO shifts eastward so that it builds into NW Canada by next weekend. At the same time the North Atlantic Ridge over Great Britain builds West into Iceland and Greenland by day 10 resulting in a very strong -NAO/ - AO combination or couplet. (East Coast snow lovers rejoice) 

 

These two changes force a steady shift of the strong Ridge in the eastern US into the western Atlantic by February 14.

 

But even more impressive is the fact that there is quite a bit of model data that suggests the Alaskan nw t Canada BLOCK/ -EPO is going to build into the Arctic region at the same time the Greenland Ridge - NAO intensifies and expands. 

 

This creates what is known as LINKAGE and it would force the entire PV far to the south that possibly as south as James Bay Canada.! Brrrrrr  

 

This would trigger another prolonged and significant Arctic air mass outbreak much like we saw in January developing across the central and eastern CONUS mainly north of Interstate 40 by the middle of February.

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