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Central PA Winter 2024/2025


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7 hours ago, Bubbler86 said:

Here we go, afraid these may be a tad high but would love for them to bust low.  These are too smoothed out but not going to go crazy.  I am sure I forgot someone I have conversed with recently but going off the top of my head, no offense.   I could have simply said 4-6" and covered most :-).

@canderson an interested observer just told me it is really 4.8"so changing my number

@Blizzard of 93  4.5"

@Itstrainingtime and @Mount Joy Snowman and other Lanco posters 5.3"

@DDweatherman 4.2"

@Chris78 4.0"

@pawatch 2.6"

@paweather 5"

@Bubbler86 4.2"

@AccuChris 5.1"

@mitchnick 4.2"

@Voyager 5.3"

@mahantango#1 4.1"

@WmsptWx 3.7"

@anotherman 4.4"

 

Solid numbers

I agree with you on my yard.

Nice call

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6z runs, other than Euro as it's pending, maintained that 3-5" idea for the winners as I put it last night in the MA forum. My NWS forecast has held atc3-7" since yesterday and that has a decent chance of verifying, but I doubt any 7" totals and you'll need some luck for 6". 

Basically a decent, moderate event. 

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2 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

6z runs, other than Euro as it's pending, maintained that 3-5" idea for the winners as I put it last night in the MA forum. My NWS forecast has held atc3-7" since yesterday and that has a decent chance of verifying, but I doubt any 7" totals and you'll need some luck for 6". 

Basically a decent, moderate event. 

My forecast went from 4-8 down to 3-5. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Voyager said:

My forecast went from 4-8 down to 3-5. 

 

They'll probably wait for 12z to come out, but I  expect mine to get shaved some off the top.

If we don't find a way to score after today thru the first few days of February, we're in trouble because the February pattern that looks to be coming is hostile to snow...real hostile.

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5 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

They'll probably wait for 12z to come out, but I  expect mine to get shaved some off the top.

If we don't find a way to score after today thru the first few days of February, we're in trouble because the February pattern that looks to be coming is hostile to snow...real hostile.

Meaning warm pattern? 

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7 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

They'll probably wait for 12z to come out, but I  expect mine to get shaved some off the top.

If we don't find a way to score after today thru the first few days of February, we're in trouble because the February pattern that looks to be coming is hostile to snow...real hostile.

DT said the first 2 or 3 weeks in February doesn't look good for winter.

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2 minutes ago, paweather said:

Meaning warm pattern? 

It has us in the +1C-3C or 1.8F-5.4F range for 3 weeks, give or take. And it has a ridge around the western, southern, and eastern borders of the Conus. Not pretty if you want snow.

Gotta hope it's wrong, but the Euro weeklies have been great with the cold forecasts since mid-Nov. If they maintain their accuracy, be prepared for early spring talk. Lol

Iow, we need the next 2 weeks badly or else TCC will be crawling out of his hole I'm sure.

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7 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

DT said the first 2 or 3 weeks in February doesn't look good for winter.

Silver lining, I suppose, is that most Niñas bring back the cold in March, so we may have to wait until late February or early March for a less hostile period. But then we're fighting boundary temps. Not a big problem so much in the hill ares and northern PA, but it is down in the relative lowlands like mby.

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Just now, Blizzard of 93 said:

6z Euro was a great run for the LSV.

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Shocker! I  was afraid to look to be honest. Now let's see if it verifies.  I posted before how it seems to always bump numbers imby right before the event starts and it never verifies. Of course, there's still a 12z run to mess with our heads too. Lol

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1 minute ago, mitchnick said:

Silver lining, I suppose, is that most Niñas bring back the cold in March, so we may have to wait until late February or early March for a less hostile period. But then we're fighting boundary temps. Not a big problem so much in the hill ares and northern PA, but it is down in the relative lowlands like mby.

It sucks when we get into the middle and latter part of March when it's supposed to be getting warmer and winter cold temps wanna hang on. I think winter will make a comeback...when were ready for spring.

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35 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

They'll probably wait for 12z to come out, but I  expect mine to get shaved some off the top.

If we don't find a way to score after today thru the first few days of February, we're in trouble because the February pattern that looks to be coming is hostile to snow...real hostile.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm ready for break in the cold. It makes my job so difficult, so on that note I'm hoping to see the AN for February.

With that said, I'd still like to see a solid thump before this crazy cold this week.

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20 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

One quick check of the long range for February on the latest Euro Weeklies shows below normal temperatures in our region despite not the ideal pattern look at times.

I’m encouraged because the Weeklies in the longer term are usually not generous with showing cold whatsoever.

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That looks great, but the weeklies I follow are at the link below  and they aren't great for February after the first week or so. They are run off the 0z Eps from the night before and your run is from 2 nights ago. So it's possible, but I  would imagine, very unlikely that 1 day would make a difference especially since the prior run at the link below was warm too. Anyway, here's the link.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-2t?base_time=202501180000&projection=opencharts_north_america&valid_time=202501270000

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3 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

That looks great, but the weeklies I follow are at the link below  and they aren't great for February after the first week or so. They are run off the 0z Eps from the night before and your run is from 2 nights ago. So it's possible, but I  would imagine, very unlikely that 1 day would make a difference especially since the prior run at the link below was warm too. Anyway, here's the link.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-2t?base_time=202501180000&projection=opencharts_north_america&valid_time=202501270000

Here's a link to the 5H anomalies I referred to in my earlier post fwiw.

https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-z500?base_time=202501180000&projection=opencharts_north_america&valid_time=202501270000

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If you go to this link, wait for it to populate info, then it's easy to move around if you're on your phone with 1 finger.

Anyway, the cold air has made it to State Collefe and Bradford is in the upper teens. We'll be OK by the time the meaningful precip arrives....I think. Lol

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/map/?obs=true&center=39.82,-79.68&density=1&zoom=7&basemap=OpenStreetMap&boundaries=true,false&obs_popup=true

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