Central PA Winter 2024/2025

[mahantango#1]

And lets not forget the all important DT start times too!

[Bubbler86]

Hard to find a lot of deviation this am.  Eastern LSV Jack.  Even on the GFS SI

[mahantango#1]

This should be concerning to all of us in Pa. and the rest of the country especially in severe weather situations. We might ridicule them at times, but when they break in a program to inform us of a tornado on the ground or flood warning that there is a needed to inform us all of a life or death situation. The reason for getting rid of tv station meteorologists is to save money. 

Just an FYI. The local media landscape is changing drastically and will continue to do so in the coming years. Many layoffs are to come, as smaller stations close down and local news becomes centralized to fewer locations. -Matthew

[mahantango#1]

2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Hard to find a lot of deviation this am.  Eastern LSV Jack.  Even on the GFS SI

I am look forward to your accumulation map.

[Bubbler86]

2 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

This should be concerning to all of us in Pa. and the rest of the country especially in severe weather situations. We might ridicule them at times, but when they break in a program to inform us of a tornado on the ground or flood warning that there is a needed to inform us all of a life or death situation. The reason for getting rid of tv station meteorologists is to save money. 

Just an FYI. The local media landscape is changing drastically and will continue to do so in the coming years. Many layoffs are to come, as smaller stations close down and local news becomes centralized to fewer locations. -Matthew

Something like this may lead to more DT like situations from the forecasters here.  Unlike law, the only thing needed here to give it a go is internet.  (No offense to Mets, there are already dozens of professional forecasters here who have no met creds)

[mahantango#1]

2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Something like this may lead to more DT like situations from the forecasters here.  Unlike law, the only thing needed here to give it a go is internet.  (No offense to Mets, there are already dozens of professional forecasters here who have no met creds)

Most of these local TV mets. know the area that they work in. They know the climatology of the area there forecasting for. Most have been on a certain tv station for many years. IMO this is a bad move by the media giants that own these stations.

[Voyager]

7 hours ago, canderson said:

F you - you don’t speak for me! 

Just saw this now. In light of this comment, may your snow tomorrow melt on contact , and may your trash cans end up off the coast of Cape May...

[mahantango#1]

4 minutes ago, Voyager said:

Just saw this now. In light of this comment, may your snow tomorrow melt on contact , and may your trash cans end up off the coast of Cape May...

I have a feeling someone in the burg is going to experience flash flooding without having a cloud in the sky or an echo on the radar.

[mitchnick]

32 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Something like this may lead to more DT like situations from the forecasters here.  Unlike law, the only thing needed here to give it a go is internet.  (No offense to Mets, there are already dozens of professional forecasters here who have no met creds)

Morning all. Early night for this old man.

Georgia? Ummm....I  hope that doesn't mean TWC.

[mitchnick]

Canadians have reduced snowfall either due to a further north position (Rgem) or less qpf as the 6z GEM is more like 4-8" vs the 8-12" it had yesterday. 

[mahantango#1]

2 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Morning all. Early night for this old man.

Georgia? Ummm....I  hope that doesn't mean TWC.

I think your right on that. I read a post that said it was them.

[mitchnick]

 

1 minute ago, mahantango#1 said:

I think your right on that. I read a post that said it was them.

UGHHHHHHHH........

[mitchnick]

Gfs and Euro closer for Tuesday.  But not there yet. AI is a miss but has several hits the following week, better north. Of course, at that range, AI is hit or miss 

[Bubbler86]

31 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

Most of these local TV mets. know the area that they work in. They know the climatology of the area there forecasting for. Most have been on a certain tv station for many years. IMO this is a bad move by the media giants that own these stations.

It is a terrible move but fits in with other industries especially the news industry which is working to remove a lot of human reporting.  

[Bubbler86]

4 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

I think your right on that. I read a post that said it was them.

Either them or Accuweather was what I assumed (regardless of location of service.) 

[mitchnick]

3 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

I think your right on that. I read a post that said it was them.

Honestly, I  have yet to watch 1 local forecast since we bought the place in Fall 2019. Too bad for the Mets, but  the way of the media world is podcasts, YouTube, TicToc, etc.

[Voyager]

2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

It is a terrible move but fits in with other industries especially the news industry which is working to remove a lot of human reporting.  

It's everything nowadays, not just the news industry. Out in Phoenix, they have an fully operational fleet of autonomous taxi cabs that will take you wherever you want to go, and they're still working hard to perfect autonomous big rigs for the trucking industry.

[Bubbler86]

6 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Gfs and Euro closer for Tuesday.  But not there yet. AI is a miss but has several hits the following week, better north. Of course, at that range, AI is hit or miss 

GFS AI is an incredible snow storm for N Fl and Ga.    Would get the climate people all riled up. 

[Superstorm]

Multiple opportunities on 6Z GFS.


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[CASH_COOP]

7 minutes ago, Superstorm said:

Multiple opportunities on 6Z GFS.


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Only makes sense! We live in snow towns.  

[Superstorm]

Man, the Canadian and RGEM have not budged!






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[mitchnick]

Ukie ensembles have shifted north a bit from last run putting MDT in the center instead of mby.

Canadians were fine by me for days even though being on the southern side. But with them taking the near inevitable north jog it'll be a problem if it continues.  Not that they will definitely be right, but all modeling is starting a north shift a bit.

[Festus]

47 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

It is a terrible move but fits in with other industries especially the news industry which is working to remove a lot of human reporting.  

And then there's this -

Project 2025 also said the National Weather Service should become a “performance-based organization” held accountable for achieving specific results, even if the head of the agency must “deviate from government rules” to achieve those results.

Sounds like they'll be breaking out the retroactive Sharpie on the GFS maps.

[Voyager]

Not at all, and nearly every time, I'm in a jackpot zone, which almost never happens. It'll be interesting to see what the final outcome is going to be and which model verifies.

[mitchnick]

3 minutes ago, Superstorm said:

Man, the Canadian and RGEM have not budged!






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Those are the 0z runs. 6z Rgem came north a bit and knocked me down to 4" and 6z GEM cut back on precip for all making it a 4-8" storm vs 8-12". So the inevitable north/last minute waiver has reached them too.

[Bubbler86]

2 minutes ago, Festus said:

And then there's this -

Project 2025 also said the National Weather Service should become a “performance-based organization” held accountable for achieving specific results, even if the head of the agency must “deviate from government rules” to achieve those results.

Sounds like they'll be breaking out the retroactive Sharpie on the GFS maps.

Yep, the next 4 years may not be fun. 

[mitchnick]

3 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Yep, the next 4 years may not be fun. 

Imho, I doubt any of us weather weenies who know where to go for weather products will notice.

[anotherman]

Yep, the next 4 years may not be fun. 

Shocker. If only we had some warning.

[mahantango#1]

4 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Imho, I doubt any of us weather weenies who know where to go for weather products will notice.

Maybe i'm old school, but I like watching local weather on tv, for their perspective on weather events. And the carpet and tile guys is my go to.

[Blizzard of 93]

Getting Back to the current storm…

The 6z Euro had its best run yet by far for the LSV with 6 inches or more for MDT, York & Lancaster.