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Good morning weather friends - and for those who would rather not sift through all of the "off topic" posts, please allow me to share this and I will happily move on and back to why we joined...

I think by nature each of us, to varying degrees, have a built-in competitive component to our existence. Sports is an outlet for those of us who aren't as gifted as others to channel our competitive nature through the athletic teams that we choose to support. As a child growing up in rural Manor Township I played baseball for the Washington Boro Lions. My first year of baseball, my very first practice, I ran out on that field and immediately high-tailed it to 3rd base. Why? Because that's where my sports hero (Brooks Robinson) played. And I was going to grow up and be just like Brooks...

Well...that didn't happen. My baseball career ended like many, far short of the stadium lights at Memorial Stadium. What didn't end was my passion for my beloved Orioles, as well as other sports as well. And my other big passion became the school with the football team coached by the guy wearing glasses, coaching kids with plain uniforms that had no names but yet were so easily identifiable. I lived and died each fall while cheering on Todd Blackledge, Tony Sacca, Kerry Collins, Ki Janna Carter, OJ McDuffie and so many others. A national champion game with a win over Bear Bryant and the Crimson Tide when I was 17, a second national title came 4 years later against Vinny and the Hurricanes. (a third title should have come in 1994) when we finished undefeated, including a 63-14 (yes, that's correct) destruction of the Suckeyes) that season. And while there has been a lot of ups, and some very dark downs since, PSU has never made it back to the holy land.

Sports can unite schools, cities, and fan bases like very few other things in life can. Sports also offers a unique opportunity for athletes to exhibit their talent and hard work in front of the public eye. And while pretty much every sport has changed over the years, one thing that hasn't is the connection between the performance on the field and the reaction of those who witnessed it. Some athletes and teams tend to shine when the lights are brightest...and some, well, they just don't.

Sam Ficken. Sam became Penn State's kicker in the 2012 season. He almost immediately drew the ire of Nittany Nation by converting just 4 of his first 11 field goal attempts, including 4 misses in a 1 point loss to Virginia. At that moment it would have been hard to argue that Ficken was probably one of the most disliked Lions ever. But then something happened. Ficken got a call from former PSU kicker Robbie Gould, who would go on to mentor Sam the remainder of the season. Whatever Gould said, it worked. Suddenly, Ficken started banging balls between the uprights. He became so accurate that later that year he won the Big 10 Special Teams Player of the Week and he broke Penn State's all-time record by converting 15 consecutive field goals. All of this happened as students and fans started wearing "We're Sticken' With Ficken" tee shirts. He became a hero at Penn State and went on and kicked for several teams in the NFL. 

Last night hurt. A lot. I'm not one of those obnoxiously ignorant fans who always thinks that my team is better than the opponent. Far from it. I consider myself a very classy fan. And maybe that's why last night hurt as much as it did. (does) Nothing I witnessed made me believe that Notre Dame was better. Nothing. Fact is, I KNOW, that as a collective unit, we are better than they are. But we had one guy who faded when the lights were turned up. Hey, the kid (Allar) is what...20 years old? Who knows what is in store for him going forward? Perhaps next year he'll author a chapter in his own story much like Sam Ficken did, or perhaps, Allar is one of those guys who just can't overcome the moment. And that's the cruel part of sports...the scrutiny, second-guessing, bad-mouthing, etc. - it all comes with the package of being an athlete. I'll be honest, I feel embarrassed this morning. There were a lot of you who have questioned #15 for 2 years now while I have always come to his defense. Last night, his play was not defensible. If Drew plays "half decently", we win. Yes, it is a team game. Yes, when PSU came storming back after getting punched in the mouth when the Irish scored 17 straight by regaining the lead, our defense quickly gave it right back. You give up 27 and you set yourself up for potential failure. Someone last night said that after ND tied it, Allar should have taken a knee and gone to OT. I absolutely disagree with that. What I do question is this - after Singleton runs for 13 yard on 1st down, we're now nearing the 35 yard line with 40 seconds and a timeout in our pocket. Why not run him again? There was time to do so. Allar was shaky all night long, and then to put the ball in his hands and hope he makes a play...

That next play is quite likely the worst single play I've witnessed in over 50 years of watching Penn State Football. A play that was so bad that there was a part of me that almost expected it to happen. Why? Because, at least for now, Allar simply isn't the guy I thought (hoped?) that he was. One more thing - 

This morning, my heart is heavy for Drew. I can't imagine what he's going through, what he's dealing with right now. As expected, and as warranted, social media was ugly postgame last night. Thing is, Drew seems like a really good kid. And let's also remember that as passionate as we are, at the end of the day...it is a game. A game. There is so much more to life, and I really hope that Drew can move on from this at some point and become a winner. If not on the field, than in the game of life. I would hope that all of us in Nittany Nation can see that. If not today, then someday soon. 

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9 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Low of 19.  I'm hungover and sad this morning, but mostly I'm pissed off.  Penn State had no business losing that game last night.  Opportunities like that don't come around often.  At least I have an inch of snow to look forward to.  Yay.

It was a great game, and better than many expected (me thinks).  I know there are a lot of Franklin haters, but he earned his keep this year IMO.  PSU surely had momentum last night.  Someone had to lose and usually in a great game it comes down to who made least amount of errors.   Allards late int was crushing.

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7 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Good morning weather friends - and for those who would rather not sift through all of the "off topic" posts, please allow me to share this and I will happily move on and back to why we joined...

I think by nature each of us, to varying degrees, have a built-in competitive component to our existence. Sports is an outlet for those of us who aren't as gifted as others to channel our competitive nature through the athletic teams that we choose to support. As a child growing up in rural Manor Township I played baseball for the Washington Boro Lions. My first year of baseball, my very first practice, I ran out on that field and immediately high-tailed it to 3rd base. Why? Because that's where my sports hero (Brooks Robinson) played. And I was going to grow up and be just like Brooks...

Well...that didn't happen. My baseball career ended like many, far short of the stadium lights at Memorial Stadium. What didn't end was my passion for my beloved Orioles, as well as other sports as well. And my other big passion became the school with the football team coached by the guy wearing glasses, coaching kids with plain uniforms that had no names but yet were so easily identifiable. I lived and died each fall while cheering on Todd Blackledge, Tony Sacca, Kerry Collins, Ki Janna Carter, OJ McDuffie and so many others. A national champion game with a win over Bear Bryant and the Crimson Tide when I was 17, a second national title came 4 years later against Vinny and the Hurricanes. (a third title should have come in 1994) when we finished undefeated, including a 63-14 (yes, that's correct) destruction of the Suckeyes) that season. And while there has been a lot of ups, and some very dark downs since, PSU has never made it back to the holy land.

Sports can unite schools, cities, and fan bases like very few other things in life can. Sports also offers a unique opportunity for athletes to exhibit their talent and hard work in front of the public eye. And while pretty much every sport has changed over the years, one thing that hasn't is the connection between the performance on the field and the reaction of those who witnessed it. Some athletes and teams tend to shine when the lights are brightest...and some, well, they just don't.

Sam Ficken. Sam became Penn State's kicker in the 2012 season. He almost immediately drew the ire of Nittany Nation by converting just 4 of his first 11 field goal attempts, including 4 misses in a 1 point loss to Virginia. At that moment it would have been hard to argue that Ficken was probably one of the most disliked Lions ever. But then something happened. Ficken got a call from former PSU kicker Robbie Gould, who would go on to mentor Sam the remainder of the season. Whatever Gould said, it worked. Suddenly, Ficken started banging balls between the uprights. He became so accurate that later that year he won the Big 10 Special Teams Player of the Week and he broke Penn State's all-time record by converting 15 consecutive field goals. All of this happened as students and fans started wearing "We're Sticken' With Ficken" tee shirts. He became a hero at Penn State and went on and kicked for several teams in the NFL. 

Last night hurt. A lot. I'm not one of those obnoxiously ignorant fans who always thinks that my team is better than the opponent. Far from it. I consider myself a very classy fan. And maybe that's why last night hurt as much as it did. (does) Nothing I witnessed made me believe that Notre Dame was better. Nothing. Fact is, I KNOW, that as a collective unit, we are better than they are. But we had one guy who faded when the lights were turned up. Hey, the kid (Allar) is what...20 years old? Who knows what is in store for him going forward? Perhaps next year he'll author a chapter in his own story much like Sam Ficken did, or perhaps, Allar is one of those guys who just can't overcome the moment. And that's the cruel part of sports...the scrutiny, second-guessing, bad-mouthing, etc. - it all comes with the package of being an athlete. I'll be honest, I feel embarrassed this morning. There were a lot of you who have questioned #15 for 2 years now while I have always come to his defense. Last night, his play was not defensible. If Drew plays "half decently", we win. Yes, it is a team game. Yes, when PSU came storming back after getting punched in the mouth when the Irish scored 17 straight by regaining the lead, our defense quickly gave it right back. You give up 27 and you set yourself up for potential failure. Someone last night said that after ND tied it, Allar should have taken a knee and gone to OT. I absolutely disagree with that. What I do question is this - after Singleton runs for 13 yard on 1st down, we're now nearing the 35 yard line with 40 seconds and a timeout in our pocket. Why not run him again? There was time to do so. Allar was shaky all night long, and then to put the ball in his hands and hope he makes a play...

That next play is quite likely the worst single play I've witnessed in over 50 years of watching Penn State Football. A play that was so bad that there was a part of me that almost expected it to happen. Why? Because, at least for now, Allar simply isn't the guy I thought (hoped?) that he was. One more thing - 

This morning, my heart is heavy for Drew. I can't imagine what he's going through, what he's dealing with right now. As expected, and as warranted, social media was ugly postgame last night. Thing is, Drew seems like a really good kid. And let's also remember that as passionate as we are, at the end of the day...it is a game. A game. There is so much more to life, and I really hope that Drew can move on from this at some point and become a winner. If not on the field, than in the game of life. I would hope that all of us in Nittany Nation can see that. If not today, then someday soon. 

Well said!

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1 minute ago, pasnownut said:

It was a great game, and better than many expected (me thinks).  I know there are a lot of Franklin haters, but he earned his keep this year IMO.  PSU surely had momentum last night.  Someone had to lose and usually in a great game it comes down to who made least amount of errors.   Allards late int was crushing.

Franklin worth keeping? Who did he beat this year outside of Boise St. He is a joke. 10M a year. Come on. 

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2 minutes ago, paweather said:

Franklin worth keeping? Who did he beat this year outside of Boise St. He is a joke. 10M a year. Come on. 

I thought it was only 7mm/yr.  Feel better now :lol:

I didnt expect to get likes on my opinion.  Just how I feel.  I think he had to raise the bar this year, and IMO he did.  Enough....??? you guys can be the judge n jury.  Still gonna b a PSU fan no matter.  

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5 minutes ago, paweather said:

Franklin worth keeping? Who did he beat this year outside of Boise St. He is a joke. 10M a year. Come on. 

He got his team within 1 play/series of the Championship.  Not too shabby.  Notre Dame was 7-0 against ranked teams this year despite playing an ACC schedule so they are a tough out regardless of who you think is better between them.  

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1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said:

He got his team within 1 play of the Championship.  Not too shabby.  Notre Dame was 7-0 against ranked teams this year despite playing an ACC schedule so they are a tough out regardless of who you think is better between them.  

And Franklin has a 3-17 record against top 10 teams in his run as a PSU Head Coach. It is time, every year its the same thing. 

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We continue well below normal temperatures for the next couple of days before we very briefly "warm" to closer to normal before we again fall to well below normal temperatures starting Monday night and lasting through all of next week. Light snow showers will arrive overnight and be over just past daybreak tomorrow morning with a coating to 1"of snow across southern sections of the area.

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49 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Good morning weather friends - and for those who would rather not sift through all of the "off topic" posts, please allow me to share this and I will happily move on and back to why we joined...

I think by nature each of us, to varying degrees, have a built-in competitive component to our existence. Sports is an outlet for those of us who aren't as gifted as others to channel our competitive nature through the athletic teams that we choose to support. As a child growing up in rural Manor Township I played baseball for the Washington Boro Lions. My first year of baseball, my very first practice, I ran out on that field and immediately high-tailed it to 3rd base. Why? Because that's where my sports hero (Brooks Robinson) played. And I was going to grow up and be just like Brooks...

Well...that didn't happen. My baseball career ended like many, far short of the stadium lights at Memorial Stadium. What didn't end was my passion for my beloved Orioles, as well as other sports as well. And my other big passion became the school with the football team coached by the guy wearing glasses, coaching kids with plain uniforms that had no names but yet were so easily identifiable. I lived and died each fall while cheering on Todd Blackledge, Tony Sacca, Kerry Collins, Ki Janna Carter, OJ McDuffie and so many others. A national champion game with a win over Bear Bryant and the Crimson Tide when I was 17, a second national title came 4 years later against Vinny and the Hurricanes. (a third title should have come in 1994) when we finished undefeated, including a 63-14 (yes, that's correct) destruction of the Suckeyes) that season. And while there has been a lot of ups, and some very dark downs since, PSU has never made it back to the holy land.

Sports can unite schools, cities, and fan bases like very few other things in life can. Sports also offers a unique opportunity for athletes to exhibit their talent and hard work in front of the public eye. And while pretty much every sport has changed over the years, one thing that hasn't is the connection between the performance on the field and the reaction of those who witnessed it. Some athletes and teams tend to shine when the lights are brightest...and some, well, they just don't.

Sam Ficken. Sam became Penn State's kicker in the 2012 season. He almost immediately drew the ire of Nittany Nation by converting just 4 of his first 11 field goal attempts, including 4 misses in a 1 point loss to Virginia. At that moment it would have been hard to argue that Ficken was probably one of the most disliked Lions ever. But then something happened. Ficken got a call from former PSU kicker Robbie Gould, who would go on to mentor Sam the remainder of the season. Whatever Gould said, it worked. Suddenly, Ficken started banging balls between the uprights. He became so accurate that later that year he won the Big 10 Special Teams Player of the Week and he broke Penn State's all-time record by converting 15 consecutive field goals. All of this happened as students and fans started wearing "We're Sticken' With Ficken" tee shirts. He became a hero at Penn State and went on and kicked for several teams in the NFL. 

Last night hurt. A lot. I'm not one of those obnoxiously ignorant fans who always thinks that my team is better than the opponent. Far from it. I consider myself a very classy fan. And maybe that's why last night hurt as much as it did. (does) Nothing I witnessed made me believe that Notre Dame was better. Nothing. Fact is, I KNOW, that as a collective unit, we are better than they are. But we had one guy who faded when the lights were turned up. Hey, the kid (Allar) is what...20 years old? Who knows what is in store for him going forward? Perhaps next year he'll author a chapter in his own story much like Sam Ficken did, or perhaps, Allar is one of those guys who just can't overcome the moment. And that's the cruel part of sports...the scrutiny, second-guessing, bad-mouthing, etc. - it all comes with the package of being an athlete. I'll be honest, I feel embarrassed this morning. There were a lot of you who have questioned #15 for 2 years now while I have always come to his defense. Last night, his play was not defensible. If Drew plays "half decently", we win. Yes, it is a team game. Yes, when PSU came storming back after getting punched in the mouth when the Irish scored 17 straight by regaining the lead, our defense quickly gave it right back. You give up 27 and you set yourself up for potential failure. Someone last night said that after ND tied it, Allar should have taken a knee and gone to OT. I absolutely disagree with that. What I do question is this - after Singleton runs for 13 yard on 1st down, we're now nearing the 35 yard line with 40 seconds and a timeout in our pocket. Why not run him again? There was time to do so. Allar was shaky all night long, and then to put the ball in his hands and hope he makes a play...

That next play is quite likely the worst single play I've witnessed in over 50 years of watching Penn State Football. A play that was so bad that there was a part of me that almost expected it to happen. Why? Because, at least for now, Allar simply isn't the guy I thought (hoped?) that he was. One more thing - 

This morning, my heart is heavy for Drew. I can't imagine what he's going through, what he's dealing with right now. As expected, and as warranted, social media was ugly postgame last night. Thing is, Drew seems like a really good kid. And let's also remember that as passionate as we are, at the end of the day...it is a game. A game. There is so much more to life, and I really hope that Drew can move on from this at some point and become a winner. If not on the field, than in the game of life. I would hope that all of us in Nittany Nation can see that. If not today, then someday soon. 

Well said Training, well said.  I just wanted to chime in to say I was at that Virginia game in Charlottesville where Ficken melted down.  That was another game where Penn State dominated the line of scrimmage but found a way to lose, in this case due to a kicker meltdown.  That's what's so frustrating about last night, there wasn't a kicker meltdown to point to.  I suppose you could say a QB meltdown but that may be too harsh.  I will say this for Drew, he is dealing with an absolutely abhorrent WR unit that just has no one who scares defenses in any meaningful way.  Yet still, he needs to be better than he was last night.  How many overthrows did we witness??  Ugh, I could go on and on but no point.  Now all I need is for the Eagles to dismantle my Packers on Sunday to complete my week from hell haha.  Hey, life moves on.

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1 hour ago, sauss06 said:

i think it ended up 2 completed passes for 21 yards. but your point remains. 

But not to a WR. TE and RBs only caught them. Just insane - that's like that Michigan stat were they didn't attempt a pass in the entire second half last year vs Ohio State or whoever. 

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30 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

It was a great game, and better than many expected (me thinks).  I know there are a lot of Franklin haters, but he earned his keep this year IMO.  PSU surely had momentum last night.  Someone had to lose and usually in a great game it comes down to who made least amount of errors.   Allards late int was crushing.

It came down to two things for me. The interception at the end obviously, but also where ND tied the game back up on the wide open long TD where the DB just simply slipped and fell on his break. Might have been a different situation at the end of the game if that doesn’t happen. But it is what it is. Allar had a bad game/choices and that wasn’t a good time for that given Notre Dame’s defense is ranked #1 in completion percentage (50.7%) and #3 in pass yards/game (165). That game gets to OT or even just  further down the field for the win at some point he was going to have to make a key throw. 

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1 minute ago, MAG5035 said:

It came down to two things for me. The interception at the end obviously, but also where ND tied the game back up on the wide open long TD where the DB just simply slipped and fell on his break. Might have been a different situation at the end of the game if that doesn’t happen. But it is what it is. Allar had a bad game/choices and that wasn’t a good time for that given Notre Dame’s defense is ranked #1 in completion percentage (50.7%) and #3 in pass yards/game (165). That game gets to OT or even just  further down the field for the win at some point he was going to have to make a key throw. 

That one intercept he threw was woefully underthrown and any PI that may have happened on the play had nothing to do with it. 

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17 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

That one intercept he threw was woefully underthrown and any PI that may have happened on the play had nothing to do with it. 

You mean the end zone play where we found out which Notre Dame fans are also Browns fans? Haha 

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37 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

It came down to two things for me. The interception at the end obviously, but also where ND tied the game back up on the wide open long TD where the DB just simply slipped and fell on his break. Might have been a different situation at the end of the game if that doesn’t happen. But it is what it is. Allar had a bad game/choices and that wasn’t a good time for that given Notre Dame’s defense is ranked #1 in completion percentage (50.7%) and #3 in pass yards/game (165). That game gets to OT or even just  further down the field for the win at some point he was going to have to make a key throw. 

 

35 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

That one intercept he threw was woefully underthrown and any PI that may have happened on the play had nothing to do with it. 

I said one post but I have to share this - 

I felt like the play that no one is talking about that I thought was huge was the ND backup QB's fumble late in the 1st half when it was 10-0. I have no idea how we did not end up with the ball. There was a PSU player (Sutton maybe?) who was right there, alone, and somehow he didn't come up with the ball. 

We recover that and it's likely going to be 13-0 or perhaps 17-0 going into the half. That would have changed the game dramatically. 

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1 minute ago, Itstrainingtime said:

 

I said one post but I have to share this - 

I felt like the play that no one is talking about that I thought was huge was the ND backup QB's fumble late in the 1st half when it was 10-0. I have no idea how we did not end up with the ball. There was a PSU player (Sutton maybe?) who was right there, alone, and somehow he didn't come up with the ball. 

We recover that and it's likely going to be 13-0 or perhaps 17-0 going into the half. That would have changed the game dramatically. 

It was Carter, and I bet he had it and then had it taken away since he was basically playing with one arm.

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Just now, Itstrainingtime said:

 

I said one post but I have to share this - 

I felt like the play that no one is talking about that I thought was huge was the ND backup QB's fumble late in the 1st half when it was 10-0. I have no idea how we did not end up with the ball. There was a PSU player (Sutton maybe?) who was right there, alone, and somehow he didn't come up with the ball. 

We recover that and it's likely going to be 13-0 or perhaps 17-0 going into the half. That would have changed the game dramatically. 

Yea, that was a big turning point.  6-10 point swing.  It did seem like PSU was going to recover but he either lost the ball in the pile or never had it despite the TV angles. 

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James Franklin is a shitty used car salesman who is surprisingly good at recruiting coaches. Unfortunately he's a NFL WR coach who can't convince a single decent wide receiver to enter the portal or enroll at Penn State. 

 

Julian Fleming being a five-star recruit is a joke and is an indictment on the recruiting process. I don't care how good you are, Carawissa, Pennsylvania produces five star at nothing. At all. Ever. He sucks. If he went to any other AA school not called Southern Columbia, he's probably hopefully using a degree to earn a good, honest living. 

 

But our beloved former Packers WR coach convinced the King of Catawissa who flamed out in Columbus to come to State College and do piss all. Great recruiting, league WR coach. 

 

Last night is on Franklin. The defense shit all over itself the second Leonard went into the tent and Angeli came out looking like Unitas. Because Angeli also looked like Mark Sanchez dropping the ball and falling down, he had to settle for a FG so Tom Allen did absolutely nothing at halftime. Why didn't he have a strategy? Why didn't the shitty used car salesman enforce some defensive changes? 

 

Who made Allar look like a monkey fucking a football out there? Drew Allar. But who was calling for throwing plays when there are no wide receivers and Tyler Warren was being covered by the entire greater Chicago metroplex? Andy Kotelnicki. But you know who could have told him to run the ball? That's right, the shitty used car salesman. 

 

The shitty used car salesman sucks. But here's the question: Who among us is better right now? I don't see that person out there and I'll end with this. The shitty used car salesman sucks, but the wrong replacement can turn Penn State into... 

 

Nebraska.

 

And nobody wants that. 

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10 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

This should cheer everyone up a bit…

DT’s last call map for the light event tomorrow night.

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I like the well placed RIC 6”+ jack haha. Must be rolling with the HRRR for that particular area. Sure isn’t the Euro putting out numbers like that down there. The 12z HRRR and NAM runs this morning appeared to be the best scenarios for here C-PA, holding an area wide 1-2” or so. Rest of everything including the the NBM suite continues to be pessimistic in the Sus Valley. GFS was okay I suppose. I think a good expectation for the Sus Valley is generally up to an inch of snowfall for all and we’ll see if we can get a couple bands that deliver a bit more in spots. AOO/UNV corridor slightly better with 1-2” and Laurel’s with 2-3” before their typical LES/upslope regime sets up. 

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2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

You can call it that but it is essentially a series of vorts forming on the boundary.  In essence it does not matter if it cuts west, we need that boundary south of us or is rain even if it heads right for us.  The antecedent cold air is gone by that point. 

Agree. I was just calling it that. We shall see. 

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