Central PA Winter 2024/2025

[Voyager]

1 hour ago, mahantango#1 said:

Isn't there a way to use air pressure to open up the valve, (you might need about 100psi) by blowing into the valve in back of tanker? Thats what our guys did when tankers came in with frozen valves with product in the tanker.

If there is, we're not set up for it. Our butterfly valves on the 8000 gallon tanks aren't a problem. It's the push rod ones on the 6000's that we need to hit with the torch.

[ChescoWx]

Our well below normal temperatures that have started the New Year look likely to continue for the near future. Today will be our 6th straight day with temperatures staying below freezing. We may briefly get a couple of degrees above freezing (but still well below normal) by Saturday through Monday before we turn even colder by Monday night. We have a good chance at some light snow to freshen up the snowpack Friday night till Saturday morning, but most areas will receive less than an inch of the white stuff.

[paweather]

Never saw the south as lit up with Blue and Red like today. WOW, WSW and WWAs!

[Itstrainingtime]

18 this morning in Maytown. All decked out in PSU gear in the office. 

[paweather]

4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

18 this morning in Maytown. All decked out in PSU gear in the office. 

WE ARE!

[Mount Joy Snowman]

Low of 17 here.  Man, I'm loving this winter so far.  We had deep cold around Thanksgiving, a below normal December, a below normal January in the works with plenty of cold ahead, and numerous instances of flakes flying (particularly for our friends in the northern and western parts of the state).  Also looks like I should see some snow on snow again tomorrow night, as my meager pack is hanging on incredibly well.  I'm not going to let any near misses get me down after the way some previous winters have gone.  Bottom line, it looks and feels like winter thus far.  Most importantly, Go State!

[Bubbler86]

LA Fire's about to burn down the insurance industry in CA with probably much more wide-ranging effects.   The final toll is going to be many billions...could eclipse 100 Billion. 

[mahantango#1]

34 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

18 this morning in Maytown. All decked out in PSU gear in the office. 

Will the beat the Irish? I hope so.  Or will ND run away with it with a final score of something like 38-10 It seems like anything can happen in these playoffs. You have a final score prediction?

[Bubbler86]

Early 12Z Mesos's keep beefing up totals tomorrow night in some parts of the CTP area.    Delicate balance between how strong that Northern Vort is and something to trigger forcing/precip especially East of the Mountains.    If the rest of 12Z holds or gets better I expect a WAA even for parts of the LSV. 

[Bubbler86]

Posted for the humor factor (snow hole over a prominent member)

 

[paweather]

3 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Posted for the humor factor (snow hole over a prominent member)

 

Looks good 1-2" 

[Itstrainingtime]

21 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

Will the beat the Irish? I hope so.  Or will ND run away with it with a final score of something like 38-10 It seems like anything can happen in these playoffs. You have a final score prediction?

I don't like to make predictions for my sports teams, PSU football in particular. I will say this - I do think if PSU wins it will be by 3-6 points. If ND wins it will be by 10-14 points. I also think that if we can figure out how to start well for once our chance of winning goes way up. Get ahead, force their QB to throw/move around and our defense can feast. However, if ND sets the tempo early...

 

[Itstrainingtime]

13 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Posted for the humor factor (snow hole over a prominent member)

 

You called?

[pasnownut]

50 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Low of 17 here.  Man, I'm loving this winter so far.  We had deep cold around Thanksgiving, a below normal December, a below normal January in the works with plenty of cold ahead, and numerous instances of flakes flying (particularly for our friends in the northern and western parts of the state).  Also looks like I should see some snow on snow again tomorrow night, as my meager pack is hanging on incredibly well.  I'm not going to let any near misses get me down after the way some previous winters have gone.  Bottom line, it looks and feels like winter thus far.  Most importantly, Go State!

agreed on all aspects.

 

Nooners starting off w/ a tick N and still look to be sorting out what vort to focus on.  

 

 

[Itstrainingtime]

54 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Low of 17 here.  Man, I'm loving this winter so far.  We had deep cold around Thanksgiving, a below normal December, a below normal January in the works with plenty of cold ahead, and numerous instances of flakes flying (particularly for our friends in the northern and western parts of the state).  Also looks like I should see some snow on snow again tomorrow night, as my meager pack is hanging on incredibly well.  I'm not going to let any near misses get me down after the way some previous winters have gone.  Bottom line, it looks and feels like winter thus far.  Most importantly, Go State!

 

2 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

agreed on all aspects.

 

Nooners starting off w/ a tick N and still look to be sorting out what vort to focus on.  

 

 

There were a lot of people (including various mets) as far back as last winter flat out saying that the winter of 2024-25 would be non-existent and that everyone should resign themselves to just looking ahead to next winter. 

Based on what was said, this winter has been a pleasant surprise so far. And more to come. 

[pasnownut]

1 minute ago, Itstrainingtime said:

 

There were a lot of people (including various mets) as far back as last winter flat out saying that the winter of 2024-25 would be non-existent and that everyone should resign themselves to just looking ahead to next winter. 

Based on what was said, this winter has been a pleasant surprise so far. And more to come. 

Yeah early on, it sounded way less appealing than ground truth (so far).  Do we want snowpack....sure, but it absolutely feels normalish, and is and has been good for my soul.  If we can eek out 1-2" this weekend, its just icing on the cake as the overall feel...feels good.  Looking at ENS guidance and other indies, it looks like a relaxation is coming, but not sure its a blow torch.   For now, I'm going to enjoy another 7-10 days of winter, and see how the dice roll beyond.  

[Itstrainingtime]

This makes me sad:

MU Weather Center

Today, 5:00 PM sunsets return in Harrisburg and York! In Lancaster, the sun sets at 5:00 PM again on Saturday. Not until November 5, 2025, will there be a sunset earlier than 5:00 PM.

[TheClimateChanger]

Cross post on the deadly tornados of January 9, 1889, that struck Pittsburgh and Reading. The exact death toll is hard to determine, looks like estimates from Reading ranged from 17 to 60+, and at Pittsburgh from 7 to 14+. Tornado damage was also reported in York, Carlisle, Sunbury and Williamsport, in Pennsylvania, and elsewhere across the state and region from Ohio to Brooklyn, New York, where a strong tornado struck in the evening. In all, about 20 distinct tornadic circulations were uncovered during the outbreak, which is probably an undercount given the lack of satellite and aerial imagery and low population density. A suspension bridge at Niagara Falls was also toppled, but apparently due to straight line winds gusting to near hurricane force.

The worst disasters were in downtown Pittsburgh, where a building under construction on Diamond Street was toppled by the winds, killing and injuring numerous construction workers, and in Reading, where the Grimshaw Silk Mill was destroyed by the storm. 250+ people, mostly young women and girls, were working there at the time. As I note, this serves as a stark reminder that tornados can and do form at any time of the year in this part of the world.

Here is a photograph of the carnage at the Grimshaw Silk Mill site following the disaster of January 9, 1889:

[WmsptWx]

11:15 AM: The sun is out for moral support only today as the winds make it feel like it's, idk, probably negative ten? I hate life currently as it's 15°F and the worst possible temperatures to be going door-to-door filtering out Catholics and herding them into trucks. 

 

You don't need to worry about the trucks...

[pasnownut]

Is it just me, or does this weekends minoring out "event" look like a low grade miller B screw job? 

Gotta say this one has baffled me.  Is what it is but I'm scratchin the noggin a bit. Cant say I've seen many systems die out like this.  IT's like the perfect "Non" storm IMO

[pasnownut]

1 minute ago, WmsptWx said:

11:15 AM: The sun is out for moral support only today as the winds make it feel like it's, idk, probably negative ten? I hate life currently as it's 15°F and the worst possible temperatures to be going door-to-door filtering out Catholics and herding them into trucks. 

 

You don't need to worry about the trucks...

While I'm no longer a practicing Catholic, that's really not funny.

[WmsptWx]

Just now, pasnownut said:

While I'm no longer a practicing Catholic, that's really not funny.

Neither are the countless atrocities committed by those in cloak. While my post was intended to be funny and not at serious, you'd have to forgive me if I failed to reach deep for sympathy if those involved in said atrocities were rounded-up and sent to the same place as Jerry. 

 

State Correctional Institution Greensburg.

[pasnownut]

1 minute ago, WmsptWx said:

Neither are the countless atrocities committed by those in cloak. While my post was intended to be funny and not at serious, you'd have to forgive me if I failed to reach deep for sympathy if those involved in said atrocities were rounded-up and sent to the same place as Jerry. 

 

State Correctional Institution Greensburg.

As a Christian, I think Christianity has evolved a little better than you give it/us credit for.  You could insert a few other "rounded up" ones of late, and the undertone of hatred is the same. 

 

[Bubbler86]

26 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

Is it just me, or does this weekends minoring out "event" look like a low grade miller B screw job? 

Gotta say this one has baffled me.  Is what it is but I'm scratchin the noggin a bit. Cant say I've seen many systems die out like this.  IT's like the perfect "Non" storm IMO

I think it is technically though the spacing with the Northern Vort is acting to minor out the southern one as well.   Check panel compare.  1007 over Northern Fl at 23Z then 12 or so hours later the area of lowers pressure is off the VA Capes.  It do not go that far and drop that low in 12-13 hours.  Multiple vorts, Miller B, etc...something.   The GFS panels show the jump even more clearly. 

 

[Bubbler86]

EB Nooners.  Brutal.  19 and windy.  Windchill -2 during gusts into the upper 30's. 

[canderson]

1 hour ago, Itstrainingtime said:

This makes me sad:

MU Weather Center

Today, 5:00 PM sunsets return in Harrisburg and York! In Lancaster, the sun sets at 5:00 PM again on Saturday. Not until November 5, 2025, will there be a sunset earlier than 5:00 PM.

I mentioned last night how it was getting brighter later. It blows. 

Speaking of blowing, f the wind. 

[sauss06]

Just now, canderson said:

I mentioned last night how it was getting brighter later. It blows. 

Speaking of blowing, f the wind. 

not where i thought that was going 

[Bubbler86]

 

[pasnownut]

28 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

I think it is technically though the spacing with the Northern Vort is acting to minor out the southern one as well.   Check panel compare.  1007 over Northern Fl at 23Z then 12 or so hours later the area of lowers pressure is off the VA Capes.  It do not go that far and drop that low in 12-13 hours.  Multiple vorts, Miller B, etc...something.   The GFS panels show the jump even more clearly. 

 

 

Agreed.  Nooner GFS panel you shared is exactly what made me comment as such.  NS definitely is playin meat grinder of SS, but I was thinking they might play off one another a little better, as the vort is bascially running the souther boundary, so I assumed it would hold together a bit better upon approach to the coast, but a jump surely appears to be happening.  Early morning mood snows I guess.  Will be nice w/ coffee.

[Bubbler86]

On the EC, light snow spreads in the southern and central areas of the LSV just after midnight on Saturday AM.  They are done by 7AM Sat outside some snow showers.  Looks like Kuch 1-2" again for Eastern half of the state, a little more for Willamspotomixx. .