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Central PA Winter 2024/2025


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17 minutes ago, canderson said:

Today might be the last bitter cold day of the season. Let that sink in ugh 

This CWA has been a bit splintered this season. Up here the first half of winter was pretty snowy. We never had an event over I think 6 inches give or take, and most were of the 2-3 inch variety, but it's been cold from late November until the current time with only a few warm days. 

I don't think we have had a 60 degree day since before Thanksgiving. I may be wrong about that. I think we've had only a few 50 degree days and not many more 40 degree days. 

I know that hasn't been the case in the SE portion of this CWA, but this has certainly been a long, hard winter up here. 

I am hoping we are rewarded with a long, pleasant (warm enough to keep the water comfortable but not too hot to melt balls away in minutes) spring and summer with some outbreaks.

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39 minutes ago, Jns2183 said:

No pool weather till july

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My three year old would kill me. He found a pair of goggles the other day and put them on saying "big pool!" Has me thinking about whether or not the freezing water at the Clearfield YMCA would be just warm enough to satiate his swim desire until the earth warms.

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My three year old would kill me. He found a pair of goggles the other day and put them on saying "big pool!" Has me thinking about whether or not the freezing water at the Clearfield YMCA would be just warm enough to satiate his swim desire until the earth warms.
I too remember summer swim practices in June at 9am in the 50s. Shit wouldn't fly now but it did in the 90s

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1 hour ago, WmsptWx said:

This CWA has been a bit splintered this season. Up here the first half of winter was pretty snowy. We never had an event over I think 6 inches give or take, and most were of the 2-3 inch variety, but it's been cold from late November until the current time with only a few warm days. 

I don't think we have had a 60 degree day since before Thanksgiving. I may be wrong about that. I think we've had only a few 50 degree days and not many more 40 degree days. 

I know that hasn't been the case in the SE portion of this CWA, but this has certainly been a long, hard winter up here. 

I am hoping we are rewarded with a long, pleasant (warm enough to keep the water comfortable but not too hot to melt balls away in minutes) spring and summer with some outbreaks.

It has, the LSV has generally had a much better winter than last winter.. but still running a few to several inches below normal to date (closer to normal along the M/D line). The Laurel’s region has had a much better snow season with respect to normal than probably the last several winters given long periods of favorable flow for upslope and lake effect. Climo stations like Laurel Summit and Somerset are running solidly above average to date. The actual central part of the state off the mountains has been lacking in the snow department the most, due to a lack of synoptic snows. State College is behind about 10 inches for the winter to date. 

Out of 16 measurable snowfalls I’ve recorded this winter so far to get to only 23.9”,  the Jan 19-20 snow event was the only one that got past 3 inches here… and it took the post storm upslope/LES to get to that 4.1”. I still have about 6 inches just to get to last year’s lackluster snow total. The rough average in this part of town against the ridgeline is roughly in the 45-50” range. Despite that, aside from about a day or so in between sleet events the first week of Feb during pinger week 2025 (I cracked 60ºF here that week), I’ve had some kind of snow on the ground every day since New Years. The 3-4” of it on the ground right now is just about bulletproof. 

The lack of a signature storm in our area has obviously been the biggest knock on what has otherwise been probably the coldest winter temp wise overall since 14-15. Can that change in March? Certainly.. next month isn’t looking overly warm in the longer range stuff for the northeast right now. I think we’ll continue to have a pattern that will at times present the opportunity, but we’ll have to see if things can actually line up for a change. I had been eyeing that Feb 28-Mar 1 period that had amplification and a big storm in some runs a couple days ago.. but that has largely disappeared. 

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12 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

6z GFS says to not put away the shovels & snowblowers.

This run it shows 3 chances between March 4th & 10th.

Maybe March will have a chance to make up for some of our February disappointment?

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Fantasy land. 

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Just now, Blizzard of 93 said:

0z ensembles for week 2 all show that we should at least have chances as we roll through early March.

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Although not crazy snowy, Thursday's Eps snowfall had the NE, including PA, above normal for the week ending 3/10. Every other week in March was unsurprisingly BN.

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22 hours ago, Itstrainingtime said:

If Philly gets less than 0.8" of snow for the remainder of the season they will finish behind Pensacola FL. 

That about sums up the 24-25 winter for me. Save for the one surprise I got a month ago the good stuff was North South East and West of me. Like that pretty much every year now it seems.

Always next year.

 

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12 hours ago, MAG5035 said:

It has, the LSV has generally had a much better winter than last winter.. but still running a few to several inches below normal to date (closer to normal along the M/D line). The Laurel’s region has had a much better snow season with respect to normal than probably the last several winters given long periods of favorable flow for upslope and lake effect. Climo stations like Laurel Summit and Somerset are running solidly above average to date. The actual central part of the state off the mountains has been lacking in the snow department the most, due to a lack of synoptic snows. State College is behind about 10 inches for the winter to date. 

Out of 16 measurable snowfalls I’ve recorded this winter so far to get to only 23.9”,  the Jan 19-20 snow event was the only one that got past 3 inches here… and it took the post storm upslope/LES to get to that 4.1”. I still have about 6 inches just to get to last year’s lackluster snow total. The rough average in this part of town against the ridgeline is roughly in the 45-50” range. Despite that, aside from about a day or so in between sleet events the first week of Feb during pinger week 2025 (I cracked 60ºF here that week), I’ve had some kind of snow on the ground every day since New Years. The 3-4” of it on the ground right now is just about bulletproof. 

The lack of a signature storm in our area has obviously been the biggest knock on what has otherwise been probably the coldest winter temp wise overall since 14-15. Can that change in March? Certainly.. next month isn’t looking overly warm in the longer range stuff for the northeast right now. I think we’ll continue to have a pattern that will at times present the opportunity, but we’ll have to see if things can actually line up for a change. I had been eyeing that Feb 28-Mar 1 period that had amplification and a big storm in some runs a couple days ago.. but that has largely disappeared. 

Last year was actually better in terms of snowfall so far at MDT. Last year MDT was at 18.7 for snow by now, which is where they finished.

Last year should have actually ended up as a 20” plus season at MDT if that death band during the final event last February that hit me and areas along Blue Mountain to the east didn’t rob the rest of the LSV of the 3 to 6 that was forecast. Me & a few guys on the east shore of Harrisburg & out towards the Lehigh Valley ended up getting 6 to 8 while MDT was in between bands & only got less than 2.

I’m hoping that MDT can get another 4 or 5 of snow this season to cross over the 20 inch mark, which would bring the total a little more respectability when we look back someday. 
We have certainly had the cold this season, but as you said, we have not yet had a signature storm to bring the snow total up.

We have another 5 realistic weeks to score, so hopefully we can pad the snow stats a bit before it’s over.

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