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Just now, Bubbler86 said:

That is interesting.    Was it for cars?  Or pedestrian?  Does not look like there is a road there but maybe it is obscured now.    So wait, you buy the bridge and if someone goes over they authorities saw, "Not our issue, the guy does the road owns it".       You could have also done this...a toll troll.

 

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I would assume all liability associated with it. Some one gets hurt on it, the bridge falls in the creek i'm responsible to remove it out of an approved trout stream. The bridge was used for vehicles and school busses until 1983. The road is still there. Shame the county didn't want to spend $500,000 in 1993 to fix it. That quote was from Professor Kim of Bucknell University in Lewisburg, Pa. He went around the country He was an engineer  rehabilitating, and fixing bridges. 

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28 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

I would assume all liability associated with it. Some one gets hurt on it, the bridge falls in the creek i'm responsible to remove it out of an approved trout stream. The bridge was used for vehicles and school busses until 1983. The road is still there. Shame the county didn't want to spend $500,000 in 1993 to fix it. That quote was from Professor Kim of Bucknell University in Lewisburg, Pa. He went around the country He was an engineer  rehabilitating, and fixing bridges. 

I guess I can see responsibility for up keep but not responsibility for life and limb.  Can it still be walked across now/is the floor still in it? 

 

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A Day In the Life Of Central PA Weather: The 2025 Edition

Back by not-so-popular demand - 

February 2025:

12:46AM: @Blizzard of 93 shares that the 0z Euro was a huge hit! He includes 7 maps. From one model run.

12:48AM: @Blizzard of 93 chastises the entire sub by asking out loud "where is everyone after this epic Euro run?" (I see it but choose to do normal things; like you know, sleep)

12:52AM: @Blizzard of 93 asks MAG what he thinks of the potential.

2:17AM: @MAG5035quotes @Blizzard of 93 and acknowledges the potential but isn't super enthused for the LSV. @Blizzard of 93 sees this and curses. Mrs. Blizz asks if he's cussing out @MAG5035 again...no answer

3:53AM: @Yardstickgozinya posts a nice picture from his backyard. There's text to go with it, I just don't understand it

4:09AM: @Voyager reports a current temp of 7.2. Says it's too damn cold and depressing. I agree with the depressing part. I wish it was -7.2

5:01AM: @Ruin says "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 13 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

6:53AM: @mahantango#1posts his low overnight was 6.3. (okay, first off...what exactly is a "mahantango", and if since there is another member with the name "mahantango" shouldn't this guy be "mahantango2?"

7:04AM: @Bubbler86 posts that his overnight low was 8 and says that some in the LSV will hit 50 the next afternoon. I quick check my forecast and see a high of 36. 

7:11AM: @anotherman posts his low was 11. I'm wondering who the other men are and how many are there?

7:17AM: @Ruin says "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 15 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate" 

7:22AM: @pasnownut gives a PBP of his car temperature for every little nook and cranny between Akron and Elizabethtown. Never once mentions what his low temp was at home

7:27AM: @sauss06 states that at his age it's too damn cold anymore. Hmmm.

7:42AM: @Superstorm says the pattern looks ripe over the coming week. I utter "congrats, Short Pump"

7:43AM: @canderson starts talking about the next wind event that's coming in 11 days. Before that we have 3 storms to deal with, but he overlooks them

7:52AM: @pawatch shares a beautiful picture from up north. I remind myself that it's time for a trip up Rt. 44 soon.

8:17AM: @Mount Joy Snowman shares the nation's high and low temp for the previous day and includes a comment that no one really cares ha. One, I care, and have said as much on multiple occasions. B, if you don't think anyone cares, why in the hell are you sharing it?

8:22AM: @Bubbler86 changes his avatar picture to reflect the team he follows that won the previous night

8:53AM: @CarlislePaWx gives a lengthy synopsis of his temp, dew point, snow cover, precise rate of snow melt, sun angle, and then I stop reading

9:28AM: @Festus informs us that we've gained 65 minutes of daylight since December. Cool.

9:37AM: @Bubbler86mentions that the NAM is showing 1" of snow today over Lanco. I spit out my coffee

9:45AM: @pasnownut says that while parsing the overnight runs, his tellies suggest some fun in store over the next 2 weeks. And? My wife and I had fun one night last August. Big freaking deal. 

10:27AM: @Bubbler86 reports the ICON has 3" over Lanco today. At this point I realize that IKEA is more accurate in weather forecasting than the ICON.

10:45AM: @paweather quotes @Bubbler86 post about 50 degree temps and says "I guess we'll hear from TCC today" (meanwhile, "TCC" is posting about snow in Pittsburgh)

11:17AM: @Bubbler86 posts a random GFS image showing snow over the entire LSV. I check the time stamp and it's 1252 hours out

11:18AM: @Ruin quotes @Bubbler86 post and says ""weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 25 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

11:37AM: while perusing the MA forum I notice that @Blizzard of 93 graced our southern neighbors with his presence in their long range thread and hoisted 26 snow maps overnight and received 33 weenies in response

12:24PM: @Mount Joy Snowman has calculated that the month will end 2.548725 degrees below normal. Ballsy call, I say considering it's February 3rd

12:53PM: @WmsptWx says that it's snowing so hard that his road caved. I pause, and begin processing - is this in Clearfield County or Lycoming County...?

1:01PM: @Blizzard of 93 stops in over lunch to share a post that PSU Hoffman made in the MA thread about snow coming

1:12PM: @AccuChris posts the latest Euro snow map through the end of the run. There's nothing on it in the LSV

1:28PM: PSU Hoffman admits he had the setup wrong and now admits that he's out on upcoming snow chances. For whatever reason, @Blizzard of 93 fails to share this post

1:41PM: @GrandmasterB says the EPS is much better than the Operational run. I begin singing "Love and Marriage" for the next 4 hours

1:43PM: @Ruinsays "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 31 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

2:16PM: @canderson says that he feels like winter is done. This comment is to the surprise of no one in our thread. 

2:42PM: @Caveman reports a current show depth of 5.3". Is this guy the "Captain Caveman" from TV and if so, what happened to the Teen Angels?...

3:44PM: @Bubbler86 posts a NAM snow map showing 11" of snow over Lanco for the next day. I'm wondering how that's possible given Bubbler's prediction of 50 degree weather

4:04PM: @DDweatherman reports a current snow depth of 4" in Carroll Valley. I check out the Liberty webcams and see green grass surrounding the slopes. He's got one hell of a microclimate

5:12PM: @Bubbler86 shares the GFS's depiction of a major snowstorm at hour 210 for all of PA

5:13PM: @Ruin says "I'll believe it when I see it weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 33 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

6:25PM: I get excited when I open our thread after supper and see both the "Hot" tag and that we've advanced 2 pages over the past hour...

6:20PM: @Blizzard of 93begins an onslaught of model runs, snow maps and weeklies and announces that "he'll be using that snow blower a lot over the next 2 weeks" (little does he know at the time, the snow blower never actually moved)

6:28PM: @Blizzard of 93 asks @MAG5035 for his thoughts. Crickets. 

7:07PM: @Storm Clouds says that we can't catch a break, bring on severe storms! Dude...that time will come in a few months...

7:32PM: @canderson reports a wind gust of 33 mph. I go outside and there's not a trace of a breeze blowing

7:52PM: @Jns2183 makes a string of statistics posts. @Mount Joy Snowman is salivating upon seeing this

9:29PM: @Bubbler86 said that the 0z NAM took away all 11" of snow over Lanco. In fact, the nearest snow on the NAM is in Cleveland.

10:08PM: @MAG5035 makes a detailed post with his thoughts on the upcoming pattern. And while he acknowledges that the pattern might be conducive for snow in Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia and all of western PA, he's not onboard for snow in central and eastern PA. @Blizzard of 93 says to himself "I'll never ask him for this thoughts again!"

11:11PM: @Blizzard of 93 shares the GFS snow map through the following week. There's a tiny sliver of blue over the Finger Lakes. Blizz says that it's close enough for us to track...

11"47PM: I laugh at @Blizzard of 93 all while appreciating him for who he is - just a rabid snow freak like so many of us in here. What a great place to be surrounded by some really cool people. As @Mount Joy Snowman would say - 

"Onward"

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4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

A Day In the Life Of Central PA Weather: The 2025 Edition

Back by not-so-popular demand - 

February 2025:

12:46AM: @Blizzard of 93 shares that the 0z Euro was a huge hit! He includes 7 maps. From one model run.

12:48AM: @Blizzard of 93 chastises the entire sub by asking out loud "where is everyone after this epic Euro run?" (I see it but choose to do normal things; like you know, sleep)

12:52AM: @Blizzard of 93 asks MAG what he thinks of the potential.

2:17AM: @MAG5035quotes @Blizzard of 93 and acknowledges the potential but isn't super enthused for the LSV. @Blizzard of 93 sees this and curses. Mrs. Blizz asks if he's cussing out @MAG5035 again...no answer

3:53AM: @Yardstickgozinya posts a nice picture from his backyard. There's text to go with it, I just don't understand it

4:09AM: @Voyager reports a current temp of 7.2. Says it's too damn cold and depressing. I agree with the depressing part. I wish it was -7.2

5:01AM: @Ruin says "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 13 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

6:53AM: @mahantango#1posts his low overnight was 6.3. (okay, first off...what exactly is a "mahantango, and if since there is another member with the name "mahantango" shouldn't this guy be "mahantango2?"

7:04AM: @Bubbler86 posts that his overnight low was 8 and says that some in the LSV will hit 50 the next afternoon. I quick check my forecast and see a high of 36. 

7:11AM: @anotherman posts his low was 11. I'm wondering who the other men are and how many are there?

7:17AM: @Ruin says "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 15 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate" 

7:22AM: @pasnownut gives a PBP of his car temperature for every little nook and cranny between Akron and Elizabethtown. Never once mentions what his low temp was at home

7:27AM: @sauss06 states that at his age it's too damn cold anymore. Hmmm.

7:42AM: @Superstorm says the pattern looks ripe over the coming week. I utter "congrats, Short Pump"

7:43AM: @canderson starts talking about the next wind event that's coming in 11 days. Before that we have 3 storms to deal with, but he overlooks them

7:52AM: @pawatch shares a beautiful picture from up north. I remind myself that it's time for a trip up Rt. 44 soon.

8:17AM: @Mount Joy Snowman shares the nation's high and low temp for the previous day and includes a comment that no one really cares ha. One, I care, and have said as much on multiple occasions. B, if you don't think anyone cares, why in the hell are you sharing it?

8:22AM: @Bubbler86 changes his avatar picture to reflect the team he follows that won the previous night

8:53AM: @CarlislePaWx gives a lengthy synopsis of his temp, dew point, snow cover, precise rate of snow melt, sun angle, and then I stop reading

9:28AM: @Festus informs us that we've gained 65 minutes of daylight since December. Cool.

9:37AM: @Bubbler86mentions that the NAM is showing 1" of snow today over Lanco. I spit out my coffee

9:45AM: @pasnownut says that while parsing the overnight runs, his tellies suggest some fun in store over the next 2 weeks. And? My wife and I had fun one night last August. Big freaking deal. 

10:27AM: @Bubbler86 reports the ICON has 3" over Lanco today. At this point I realize that IKEA is more accurate in weather forecasting than ICON.

10:45AM: @paweather quotes @Bubbler86 post about 50 degree temps and says "I guess we'll hear from TCC today" (meanwhile, "TCC" is posting about snow in Pittsburgh)

11:17AM: @Bubbler86 posts a random GFS image showing snow over the entire LSV. I check the time stamp and it's 1252 hours out

11:18AM: @Ruin quotes @Bubbler86 post and says ""weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 25 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

11:37AM: while perusing the MA forum I notice that @Blizzard of 93 graced our southern neighbors with his presence in their long range thread and hoisted 26 snow maps overnight and received 33 weenies in response

12:24PM: @Mount Joy Snowman has calculated that the month will end 2.548725 degrees below normal. Ballsy call, I say considering it's February 3rd

12:53PM: @WmsptWx says that it's snowing so hard that his road caved. I pause, and begin processing - is this in Clearfield County or Lycoming County...?

1:01PM: @Blizzard of 93 stops in over lunch to share a post that PSU Hoffman made in the MA thread about snow coming

1:12PM: @AccuChris posts the latest Euro snow map through the end of the run. There's nothing on it in the LSV

1:28PM: PSU Hoffman admits he had the setup wrong and now admits that he's out on upcoming snow chances. For whatever reason, @Blizzard of 93 fails to share this post

1:41PM: @GrandmasterB says the EPS is much better than the Operational run. I begin singing "Love and Marriage" for the next 4 hours

1:43PM: @Ruinsays "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 31 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

2:16PM: @canderson says that he feels like winter is done. This comment is to the surprise of no one in our thread. 

2:42PM: @Caveman reports a current show depth of 5.3". Is this guy the "Captain Caveman" from TV and if so, what happened to the Teen Angels?...

3:44PM: @Bubbler86 posts a NAM snow map showing 11" of snow over Lanco for the next day. I'm wondering how that's possible given Bubbler's prediction of 50 degree weather

4:04PM: @DDweatherman reports a current snow depth of 4" in Carroll Valley. I check out the Liberty webcams and see green grass surrounding the slopes. He's got one hell of a microclimate

5:12PM: @Bubbler86 shares the GFS's depiction of a major snowstorm at hour 210 for all of PA

5:13PM: @Ruin says "I'll believe it when I see it weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 33 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

6:25PM: I get excited when I open our thread after supper and see both the "Hot" tag and that we've advanced 2 pages over the past hour...

6:20PM: @Blizzard of 93begins an onslaught of model runs, snow maps and weeklies and announces that "he'll be using that snow blower a lot over the next 2 weeks" (little does he know at the time, the snow blower never actually moved)

6:28PM: @Blizzard of 93 asks @MAG5035 for his thoughts. Crickets. 

7:07PM: @Storm Clouds says that we can't catch a break, bring on severe storms! Dude...that time will come in a few months...

7:32PM: @canderson reports a wind gust of 33 mph. I go outside and there's not a trace of a breeze blowing

7:52PM: @Jns2183 makes a string of statistics posts. @Mount Joy Snowman is salivating upon seeing this

9:29PM: @Bubbler86 said that the 0z NAM took away all 11" of snow over Lanco. In fact, the nearest snow on the NAM is in Cleveland.

10:08PM: @MAG5035 makes a detailed post with his thoughts on the upcoming pattern. And while he acknowledges that the pattern might be conducive for snow in Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia and all of western PA, he's not onboard for snow in central and eastern PA. @Blizzard of 93 says to himself "I'll never ask him for this thoughts again!"

11:11PM: @Blizzard of 93 shares the GFS snow map through the following week. There's a tiny sliver of blue over the Finger Lakes. Blizz says that it's close enough for us to track...

11"47PM: I laugh at @Blizzard of 93 all while appreciating him for who he is - just a rabid snow freak like so many of us in here. What a great place to be surrounded by some really cool people. As @Mount Joy Snowman would say - 

"Onward"

My username is taken from a Pearl Jam song called "Sleight of Hand."

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27 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

I guess I can see responsibility for up keep but not responsibility for life and limb.  Can it still be walked across now/is the floor still in it? 

 

The floor is gone at several places  but some people still access the bridge despite Dauphin County spending almost $20,000 in 1992 to put up a chain link fence with barbwire at the top. But now the barbwire is rusted through and breaking up.

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Just now, mahantango#1 said:

The floor is gone at several places  but some people still access the bridge despite Dauphin County spending almost $20,000 in 1992 to put up a chain link fence with barbwire at the top. But now the barbwire is rusted through and breaking up.

Pretty cool, thanks for the info. 

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2 hours ago, Itstrainingtime said:

A Day In the Life Of Central PA Weather: The 2025 Edition

Back by not-so-popular demand - 

February 2025:

12:46AM: @Blizzard of 93 shares that the 0z Euro was a huge hit! He includes 7 maps. From one model run.

12:48AM: @Blizzard of 93 chastises the entire sub by asking out loud "where is everyone after this epic Euro run?" (I see it but choose to do normal things; like you know, sleep)

12:52AM: @Blizzard of 93 asks MAG what he thinks of the potential.

2:17AM: @MAG5035quotes @Blizzard of 93 and acknowledges the potential but isn't super enthused for the LSV. @Blizzard of 93 sees this and curses. Mrs. Blizz asks if he's cussing out @MAG5035 again...no answer

3:53AM: @Yardstickgozinya posts a nice picture from his backyard. There's text to go with it, I just don't understand it

4:09AM: @Voyager reports a current temp of 7.2. Says it's too damn cold and depressing. I agree with the depressing part. I wish it was -7.2

5:01AM: @Ruin says "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 13 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

6:53AM: @mahantango#1posts his low overnight was 6.3. (okay, first off...what exactly is a "mahantango", and if since there is another member with the name "mahantango" shouldn't this guy be "mahantango2?"

7:04AM: @Bubbler86 posts that his overnight low was 8 and says that some in the LSV will hit 50 the next afternoon. I quick check my forecast and see a high of 36. 

7:11AM: @anotherman posts his low was 11. I'm wondering who the other men are and how many are there?

7:17AM: @Ruin says "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 15 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate" 

7:22AM: @pasnownut gives a PBP of his car temperature for every little nook and cranny between Akron and Elizabethtown. Never once mentions what his low temp was at home

7:27AM: @sauss06 states that at his age it's too damn cold anymore. Hmmm.

7:42AM: @Superstorm says the pattern looks ripe over the coming week. I utter "congrats, Short Pump"

7:43AM: @canderson starts talking about the next wind event that's coming in 11 days. Before that we have 3 storms to deal with, but he overlooks them

7:52AM: @pawatch shares a beautiful picture from up north. I remind myself that it's time for a trip up Rt. 44 soon.

8:17AM: @Mount Joy Snowman shares the nation's high and low temp for the previous day and includes a comment that no one really cares ha. One, I care, and have said as much on multiple occasions. B, if you don't think anyone cares, why in the hell are you sharing it?

8:22AM: @Bubbler86 changes his avatar picture to reflect the team he follows that won the previous night

8:53AM: @CarlislePaWx gives a lengthy synopsis of his temp, dew point, snow cover, precise rate of snow melt, sun angle, and then I stop reading

9:28AM: @Festus informs us that we've gained 65 minutes of daylight since December. Cool.

9:37AM: @Bubbler86mentions that the NAM is showing 1" of snow today over Lanco. I spit out my coffee

9:45AM: @pasnownut says that while parsing the overnight runs, his tellies suggest some fun in store over the next 2 weeks. And? My wife and I had fun one night last August. Big freaking deal. 

10:27AM: @Bubbler86 reports the ICON has 3" over Lanco today. At this point I realize that IKEA is more accurate in weather forecasting than the ICON.

10:45AM: @paweather quotes @Bubbler86 post about 50 degree temps and says "I guess we'll hear from TCC today" (meanwhile, "TCC" is posting about snow in Pittsburgh)

11:17AM: @Bubbler86 posts a random GFS image showing snow over the entire LSV. I check the time stamp and it's 1252 hours out

11:18AM: @Ruin quotes @Bubbler86 post and says ""weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 25 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

11:37AM: while perusing the MA forum I notice that @Blizzard of 93 graced our southern neighbors with his presence in their long range thread and hoisted 26 snow maps overnight and received 33 weenies in response

12:24PM: @Mount Joy Snowman has calculated that the month will end 2.548725 degrees below normal. Ballsy call, I say considering it's February 3rd

12:53PM: @WmsptWx says that it's snowing so hard that his road caved. I pause, and begin processing - is this in Clearfield County or Lycoming County...?

1:01PM: @Blizzard of 93 stops in over lunch to share a post that PSU Hoffman made in the MA thread about snow coming

1:12PM: @AccuChris posts the latest Euro snow map through the end of the run. There's nothing on it in the LSV

1:28PM: PSU Hoffman admits he had the setup wrong and now admits that he's out on upcoming snow chances. For whatever reason, @Blizzard of 93 fails to share this post

1:41PM: @GrandmasterB says the EPS is much better than the Operational run. I begin singing "Love and Marriage" for the next 4 hours

1:43PM: @Ruinsays "weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 31 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

2:16PM: @canderson says that he feels like winter is done. This comment is to the surprise of no one in our thread. 

2:42PM: @Caveman reports a current show depth of 5.3". Is this guy the "Captain Caveman" from TV and if so, what happened to the Teen Angels?...

3:44PM: @Bubbler86 posts a NAM snow map showing 11" of snow over Lanco for the next day. I'm wondering how that's possible given Bubbler's prediction of 50 degree weather

4:04PM: @DDweatherman reports a current snow depth of 4" in Carroll Valley. I check out the Liberty webcams and see green grass surrounding the slopes. He's got one hell of a microclimate

5:12PM: @Bubbler86 shares the GFS's depiction of a major snowstorm at hour 210 for all of PA

5:13PM: @Ruin says "I'll believe it when I see it weather models suck it was supposed to be 14 degrees but i have 33 and no wonder why people don't trust them because they are so inaccurate"

6:25PM: I get excited when I open our thread after supper and see both the "Hot" tag and that we've advanced 2 pages over the past hour...

6:20PM: @Blizzard of 93begins an onslaught of model runs, snow maps and weeklies and announces that "he'll be using that snow blower a lot over the next 2 weeks" (little does he know at the time, the snow blower never actually moved)

6:28PM: @Blizzard of 93 asks @MAG5035 for his thoughts. Crickets. 

7:07PM: @Storm Clouds says that we can't catch a break, bring on severe storms! Dude...that time will come in a few months...

7:32PM: @canderson reports a wind gust of 33 mph. I go outside and there's not a trace of a breeze blowing

7:52PM: @Jns2183 makes a string of statistics posts. @Mount Joy Snowman is salivating upon seeing this

9:29PM: @Bubbler86 said that the 0z NAM took away all 11" of snow over Lanco. In fact, the nearest snow on the NAM is in Cleveland.

10:08PM: @MAG5035 makes a detailed post with his thoughts on the upcoming pattern. And while he acknowledges that the pattern might be conducive for snow in Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia and all of western PA, he's not onboard for snow in central and eastern PA. @Blizzard of 93 says to himself "I'll never ask him for this thoughts again!"

11:11PM: @Blizzard of 93 shares the GFS snow map through the following week. There's a tiny sliver of blue over the Finger Lakes. Blizz says that it's close enough for us to track...

11"47PM: I laugh at @Blizzard of 93 all while appreciating him for who he is - just a rabid snow freak like so many of us in here. What a great place to be surrounded by some really cool people. As @Mount Joy Snowman would say - 

"Onward"

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The ice this morning on the Mahantango Creek is doing a good bit of creaking and cracking. It was very loud earlier. I don't expect the ice to go. The water level is just fluctuating Making the ice creak and crack. I wanted to get closer to the creek but there is thick ice in the yard. So I'm not attempting to go down there. After last weeks episode of me thinking I could walk in the yard on that thin ice which was thicker then I thought i didnt break through it. I took a nice fall and hurt both my wrists and had to crawl out of the yard to the road. Thankfully I didn't break any thing but I sprained the one wrist pretty good.
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That area looks absolutely gorgeous. Like perfect place to have a pig roast around a full moon by the summer solstice. Be able to fish by moonlight, have some kegs + pa whiskey barrelshave some beers and fall asleep by a nice bonfire in a sleeping bag

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So for those keeping scors models 7 days out are 1 for 9 with what they showed vs what we got 
If a human picks up a skunk by the tail and gets sprayed, is it the skunks fault for doing what a skunk does or is the humans fault who knowing what skunks do, still decides to pick one up by its tail?

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