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Looks like a lot of disappointment today. How can some of these models that showed a lot of snow the last 2 weeks not verify? Are we expecting too much accuracy from these models 1 to 2 weeks out? I know it's only a tool but still... Well I guess it's time to move on to Spring which will be here in a few weeks. Looking forward to thunderstorms at this point.

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I've been reading some comments that this was the worst model bust in history. Yeah...not even close:

12/26/2010: Models had much of the LSV getting anywhere from 6-18" of snow up to 6 hours prior to storm's onset. Final verdict: 0"

12/30/2000: Models had an incredible 1 to 3 FEET of snow literally leading into the storm's projected beginning. Final verdict: 0"

There were many others including March 2001. At least the rug got pulled on this at the 96 hour mark or so. 

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3 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

Looks like a lot of disappointment today. How can some of these models that showed a lot of snow the last 2 weeks not verify? Are we expecting too much accuracy from these models 1 to 2 weeks out? I know it's only a tool but still... Well I guess it's time to move on to Spring which will be here in a few weeks. Looking forward to thunderstorms at this point.

See above. Models have improved greatly. There still only just that...models. 

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7 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

As far as I am concerned, this was/is just a normal tracking period of a potential storm.   It was more comments from people vs. models that made this event seem a bit overblown. 

Right. No bust at all - models lost the interaction and phase and that killed any hope for us. It happened 5 days before the supposed event - that’s the opposite of a bust.  

Now let’s hope we magically get 6” of was snow … 

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7 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

As far as I am concerned, this was/is just a normal tracking period of a potential storm.   It was more comments from people vs. models that made this event seem a bit overblown. 

It was a letdown for sure. But we'll pick up the pieces of the broken models and put them back together and anxiously await another model run that shows copious amounts of snow for our region in the distant future.

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2 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

It was a letdown for sure. But we'll pick up the pieces of the broken models and put them back together and anxiously await another model run that shows copious amounts of snow for our region in the distant future.

There are opportunities in the MR plus it could still snow some this Thursday even with the current depicts....with the 500 pass. 

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In the end, its about the journey. Some get all bent out of shape ( yinz know who i mean) the models this, the models that. yadda yadda yadda. So focused on the negatives, you don't look at the positives..............Like the sunrise Mike spoke about. or the fact none of us had major wind damage last night (not that i have read anyhow) 

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1 minute ago, sauss06 said:

In the end, its about the journey. Some get all bent out of shape ( yinz know who i mean) the models this, the models that. yadda yadda yadda. So focused on the negatives, you don't look at the positives..............Like the sunrise Mike spoke about. or the fact none of us had major wind damage last night (not that i have read anyhow) 

Amen Jon - thank you for that. And just for you, the very latest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIczBAWYoRk

 

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5 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

I got a taste and want to go back so much. It truly, truly is a beautiful place with so much to do, and a bad winter for them is 300". Too bad the price tag to buy is 6 grades above me. :)

Yeah, I suppose it would be a cool vacation trip to see something like that in person. His videos are fascinating to watch! I just know that there's no way I could ever live there.

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Low of 27 with .37” of rain and lots of wind. This week is a big letdown for sure but as some others have mentioned it’s hard to call it a total bust when the models started honing in on the correct solution five days out — the very time period at which we are told to start paying real attention. I wish they were better from range too but they’re all we’ve got ha. Who knows, maybe the AI infusion will improve things. Glad to hear some westerners are getting in on the fun. Some of those streamers look great. Onward. 

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8 minutes ago, Jns2183 said:

If the long range is right we are going to be starting March desperate desperate for many rainy days.

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What do you mean? Like we start off dry?

 

What's remarkable to me, and probably the yearly surplus, is that last year 15 of the first 20 Sadderdays had rain. 

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20 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

 

Sizeable move north on the tug. 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep.  When I saw your first post, I was shaking my head a bit.  

You recovered well.  :P

Bleeding stopped a bit??  I'm not gonna be around today.  On road all day, so hoping nooners and HH has some norther ticks back in it. 

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7 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

DCA back in the game on the Nam.  Will make the rest of the 12Z a tiny bit more interesting. 

QPF ticked a nice bit N as well.  As I said above, hoping today is turnaround day.  PV is legit, and not sure how much it can gain latitude, but let's hope. 

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3 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

Yep.  When I saw your first post, I was shaking my head a bit.  

You recovered well.  :P

Bleeding stopped a bit??  I'm not gonna be around today.  On road all day, so hoping nooners and HH has some norther ticks back in it. 

In fairness we were not near the WAA portion of the event which is the easy side.    But if there is going to be a surprise, any potential pull would be more likely. 

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