Central PA Winter 2024/2025

[Bubbler86]

Still in double digits at 10 here.  8 higher than last night at this time.  Should drop fast if clouds move out. 

[Blizzard of 93]

Truly historic weather along the Gulf & southern Atlantic coast today.

The records that get posted should be impressive in that region.

[Bubbler86]

24 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Truly historic weather along the Gulf & southern Atlantic coast today.

The records that get posted should be impressive in that region.

Hoping a Florida location can top 4" giving 2025 the new 24 hour record.

[Itstrainingtime]

Down to 7.3 under partly cloudy skies.

[TheClimateChanger]

4 hours ago, Albedoman said:

Yes, some talk about it here but it is the media that ticks me off. Too much time on sports and social issues, not enough time on water supply issues until it's too late.  The snow sublimation is a humongous problem right now. Ski resorts are pumping one hell of lot water out of the ground just to keep the slopes at the proper snow depth. Why is no one mentioning that situation? The levels of streams show drought conditions now because they are frozen. Low flow conditions enable the non limestone streams to freeze longer and harder. More ice jams later?  a good 18-24 inch state nowfall event would help a lot. That is not in the cards at this time. I see 2/14 to 2/20  period  as the best and only shot of this happening as the dying la nina is put down with a new pattern change. However this pattern reminds of the 3 pattern before the March 93 superstorm too 

Good post. If your fears do come to fruition, I think part of the blame belongs to the government. The Drought Monitor continues to show marked improvement statewide over the past 10 weeks, which would suggest wetter than average conditions has helped to alleviate, or reduce, the existing drought. But, in fact, most places have seen below normal precipitation over the past 10 weeks - in some cases, much below.

 

[Bubbler86]

28 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Good post. If your fears do come to fruition, I think part of the blame belongs to the government. The Drought Monitor continues to show marked improvement statewide over the past 10 weeks, which would suggest wetter than average conditions has helped to alleviate, or reduce, the existing drought. But, in fact, most places have seen below normal precipitation over the past 10 weeks - in some cases, much below.

 

Since evaporation is slowed during cold weather/less sun, drought can sometimes improve in the winter even if precip is not above normal.  But we better get some wet periods before the heat of late spring hits or we will fall off a cliff as to drought numbers. 

[Albedoman]

drought is ignored in the winter as these PADEP hydrologists sit comfortably in their heated offices and never get out to see the real world. They rely on  inaccurate  USGS gauges during frozen conditions  and other BS modeling for drought that are with unproven techniques.  Tell them to go drill a monitoring well and they will always say  what for?  The stupidity burns my friends.

The current snow pack contains snowflakes with little moisture content which does nothing for the drought.  Best evidence in which the hydrologists ignore is the moisture content of the snowpack.  My proof?  Look how yellow the grass was even before the latest snow cover.  The grass has now been covered with some low moisture fluffy snow but in these desert like humidities the last month , sublimation has literally destroy the moisture content of the snow cover and when the grass is exposed again, the grass will be even more yellow- actually brown. But they continue to sit in their offices dreaming of a flood somewhere. Thanks for agreeing with me.

[canderson]

6 degrees at 11 p.m.  Damn impressive.  

[mitchnick]

-13 for 2 consecutive hours at York Airport 

https://forecast.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KTHV.html

[Festus]

-6

First time I can remember my geothermal system had to kick into auxiliary mode. 

And it's 5 above in International Falls at this hour.  "Icebox of America" - not. 

[Blizzard of 93]

MDT got down to -8 at 4:30 am.

[mahantango#1]

[Mount Joy Snowman]

Zero at my house when I left, will likely go negative. Car thermo hit -11 through low rurals, showing -8 right now at the Mount Joy train station. Wild. 

[Jns2183]

Zero at my house when I left, will likely go negative. Car thermo hit -11 through low rurals, showing -8 right now at the Mount Joy train station. Wild. 

Is the train warm? You waiting outside on platform for train?

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[MAG5035]

-6.5ºF/-11ºF here so far this morning. I bottomed out yesterday during the 7am hour so possibly some time to get near -10ºF given the dewpoint. Very impressive either way. 

On Mesowest it looked like that Hollsopple station between Johnstown and Somerset is below -20 again, and THV  was down as far as -17ºF

[mahantango#1]

Currently-15.2, might drop a little more till sunrise.

[Blizzard of 93]

0z Canadian tried to get a potential Winter storm going on the 30th.

[Blizzard of 93]

6z GFS greets February with this snow & ice potential this run.

[mitchnick]

9 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

-6.5ºF/-11ºF here so far this morning. I bottomed out yesterday during the 7am hour so possibly some time to bottom out near -10ºF given the dewpoint. Very impressive either way. 

On Mesowest it looked like that Hollsopple station between Johnstown and Somerset was below -20 again, and THV  was down as far as -17ºF

Lot of discussion over the years about how cold THV usually is. I wasn't sure if this ever mentioned. If you zoom in on the NWS Mesonet site, you can see that the reporting station is down near a low spot along the Little Conewago Creek. 

[Superstorm]

Lot of discussion over the years about how cold THV usually is. I wasn't sure if this ever mentioned. If you zoom in on the NWS Mesonet site, you can see that the reporting station is down near a low spot along the Little Conewago Creek. 

Great spot for radiating.


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[Bubbler86]

-3 for the low here. 

[mitchnick]

Just now, Superstorm said:

Great spot for radiating.


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And I can almost guarantee it's frozen. My wife and I were in Dover yesterday and every stream was frozen solid, with only 5 or 10% open in the largest rivers.

[canderson]

-5!!!! is my low. I think that’s the lowest ever for me here 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

23 minutes ago, Jns2183 said:

Is the train warm? You waiting outside on platform for train?

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I wait in my car until a couple minutes before it arrives. You can use the app to track. It was running 15 mins late today. Train cars are nice and heated though. Just passed by MDT. The river is more solidly frozen than I’ve seen it in many years. 

[Mount Joy Snowman]

15 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Lot of discussion over the years about how cold THV usually is. I wasn't sure if this ever mentioned. If you zoom in on the NWS Mesonet site, you can see that the reporting station is down near a low spot along the Little Conewago Creek. 

Yes I’ve dove into this topic a couple of times over the years. Low spot along a ridge line in a rural area. Have also speculated about what looks to be a quarry or large barren rocky area right next to the airport. At least in the past when I checked on satellite view it showed up prominently. Lack of vegetation is a major component to areas the go anomalously low during inversion nights. 

[pawatch]

❄️9 years ago today in 2016, a crippling and historic winter storm produced 1 to 3 feet over snow in south central PA. The 24hr total snowfall at Harrisburg of 26.4" ranks as the highest daily snowfall on record. https://www.weather.gov/ctp/01222016_blizzard 1/22/25@626am

-5 degrees this morning 

[canderson]

4 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

I wait in my car until a couple minutes before it arrives. You can use the app to track. It was running 15 mins late today. Train cars are nice and heated though. Just passed by MDT. The river is more solidly frozen than I’ve seen it in many years. 

All the doors but two or three were frozen shut yesterday am ha 

[Blizzard of 93]

-2 in Marysville for the low.

2 currently 

[anotherman]

The weather station in Mount Joy recorded a -11 reading about two hours ago.

[Bubbler86]

Horst:

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/01/25/york-airport-records-far-colder-temperatures-than-rest-area-heres-why/1058953001/#:~:text=It's surrounded by farmland and,that traps the cold air."