Central PA Winter 2024/2025

[Bubbler86]

4 minutes ago, Superstorm said:

What does he mean by setbacks?

No precipitation?


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I took it as his warminista self coming out and saying set backs to a quicker moderated regime. 

[Itstrainingtime]

10 minutes ago, Superstorm said:

What does he mean by setbacks?

No precipitation?


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It will not get steadily warmer. The long-term trend is up with a few bouts of colder weather interspersed. He does think that the overall tone going forward is dry and warmer. 

[canderson]

Reads like a winter cancel message to me 

[Itstrainingtime]

3 minutes ago, canderson said:

Reads like a winter cancel message to me 

As long as it's understood that "Winter Cancel" could still produce more snowfall. It doesn't require a lot during February for that to happen. 

[Itstrainingtime]

Southeast Obs thread is nice to look at right now, lots of updates with pictures being posted from Georgia and Florida. One post shows heavy snow in FL with an air temp of 25. Just incredible. 

[Superstorm]

As long as it's understood that "Winter Cancel" could still produce more snowfall. It doesn't require a lot during February for that to happen. 

Very true.


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[Bubbler86]

22 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

As long as it's understood that "Winter Cancel" could still produce more snowfall. It doesn't require a lot during February for that to happen. 

I would be perfectly happy with highs in the 20's and lows in the teens to maintain the snow pack fairly well vs. the current extremes but if someone told me we have had wall-to-wall winter so far, I would not argue.  It may be asking too much for a third month in a row having BN departures. Has not translated into a over abundance of snow but cold has won for what is quickly closing in on the 2/3 mark of met winter.     MDT is sporting a -3.4 departure for Jan right now which will go down even more the next 2-3 days.   Will take quite the Feb torch to have Met Winter end up AN at this point. 

[Superstorm]

Southeast Obs thread is nice to look at right now, lots of updates with pictures being posted from Georgia and Florida. One post shows heavy snow in FL with an air temp of 25. Just incredible. 

Yeah, I’m watching them on TikTok. Absolutely incredible. This is part of reason I love weather. When events of this nature happen, it is truly amazing.


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[Albedoman]

17 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Some of us talk about it here, so it is not being ignored.   Stream Flow in PA is borderline bad but marginal at best,

 

 

Yes, some talk about it here but it is the media that ticks me off. Too much time on sports and social issues, not enough time on water supply issues until it's too late.  The snow sublimation is a humongous problem right now. Ski resorts are pumping one hell of lot water out of the ground just to keep the slopes at the proper snow depth. Why is no one mentioning that situation? The levels of streams show drought conditions now because they are frozen. Low flow conditions enable the non limestone streams to freeze longer and harder. More ice jams later?  a good 18-24 inch state nowfall event would help a lot. That is not in the cards at this time. I see 2/14 to 2/20  period  as the best and only shot of this happening as the dying la nina is put down with a new pattern change. However this pattern reminds of the 3 pattern before the March 93 superstorm too 

[Bubbler86]

7 minutes ago, Albedoman said:

Yes, some talk about it here but it is the media that ticks me off. Too much time on sports and social issues, not enough time on water supply issues until it's too late.  The snow sublimation is a humongous problem right now. Ski resorts are pumping one hell of lot water out of the ground just to keep the slopes at the proper snow depth. Why is no one mentioning that situation? The levels of streams show drought conditions now because they are frozen. Low flow conditions enable the non limestone streams to freeze longer and harder. More ice jams later?  a good 18-24 inch state nowfall event would help a lot. That is not in the cards at this time. I see 2/14 to 2/20  period  as the best and only shot of this happening as the dying la nina is put down with a new pattern change. However this pattern reminds of the 3 pattern before the March 93 superstorm too 

Most people who watch TV news are going to see snow on the ground and not want to hear about drought.    That is my take anyway.     If we get a Hecs sometime between 2/14 and 2/20, I will certainly bring up this post again as props!  

[canderson]

My brother had 5.25” snow today S of Houston. 

[Bubbler86]

That is a beefy clipper on the 18Z GFS; 983 millibars.  Some Cat 1 Hurricanes are in this neighborhood. 

 

[canderson]

1 hour ago, Itstrainingtime said:

As long as it's understood that "Winter Cancel" could still produce more snowfall. It doesn't require a lot during February for that to happen. 

Oh very true. It just reads that we are prob going to not see another actual snowstorm this year (not counting 1-2” slop). 

[WmsptWx]

Winter Cancel are two words that should not get to be used this year. It's been much colder than previous years and everyone is on the board. 

 

I think I've had maybe five days since Thanksgiving where there hasn't been snow cover. And I may be too generous with that guess. 

[WmsptWx]

53 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

That is a beefy clipper on the 18Z GFS; 983 millibars.  Some Cat 1 Hurricanes are in this neighborhood. 

 

Oh lovely. Ktx and myself get to take one on the chin.

[CarlislePaWx]

The bottom has literally dropped out from the outdoor temp.  At 7:00pm I was 9 degrees.  Now, one hour later I'm down to +4.3 F.  That's nearly 5 degrees in just one hour.  Looking to drop below this morning's low of -3.6 F.  At the rate it's currently dropping I may be down to zero before midnight.

[Itstrainingtime]

1 minute ago, CarlislePaWx said:

The bottom has literally dropped out from the outdoor temp.  At 7:00pm I was 9 degrees.  Now, one hour later I'm down to +4.3 F.  That's nearly 5 degrees in just one hour.  Looking to drop below this morning's low of -3.6 F.  At the rate it's currently dropping I may be down to zero before midnight.

Meanwhile over here my temp has risen 1.2 degrees over the past 3 hours. Currently it's 13.4. 

Cloud cover...

[Blizzard of 93]

Currently 8 in Marysville.

[Blizzard of 93]

2 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Currently 8 in Marysville.

Update… down to 6

[anotherman]

Starting to clear out….

[WmsptWx]

Okay. I'm over the cold. This is too cold.

[mahantango#1]

-1.5 here @8:27pm How low will I go tonight?

[Itstrainingtime]

8 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

-1.5 here @8:27pm How low will I go tonight?

I'm jealous.

[pawatch]

Currently a big 0°  

Throw an extra blanket on tonight .

Edit:  9:45 up to 2 degrees 

[MAG5035]

3 hours ago, Bubbler86 said:

That is a beefy clipper on the 18Z GFS; 983 millibars.  Some Cat 1 Hurricanes are in this neighborhood. 

 

 

I know at least one person in here that would get cat 1 winds from that haha. 

[mahantango#1]

26 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

I'm jealous.

You can have all this cold. No questions asked.

[Blizzard of 93]

MDT down to 7 at 9 pm

[mahantango#1]

11 minutes ago, MAG5035 said:

I know at least one person in here that would get cat 1 winds from that haha. 

We might need live coverage of this event when it comes through the 'burg.

[CarlislePaWx]

1 hour ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Meanwhile over here my temp has risen 1.2 degrees over the past 3 hours. Currently it's 13.4. 

Cloud cover...

Fear not...I'm pretty sure those clouds will move out at some time during the night (according to MAG), so you should still have a shot at a plunge before sunrise.

 

[Blizzard of 93]

25 degrees below normal today at MDT!

I also like seeing that we are above seasonal normal snow through today.

Still 2 solid months or so to go to be able to score more snow.