December Banter 2024

[Jebman]

I ate waaaaaay too many ribs. No more frackin' Tequila for me. That crap made me miss nearly a foot of fresh pow last night at Mammoth. I am in deep mourning over missing out on all that snow blowing past that Main Lodge Light for hours and hours.

[Jebman]

4 hours ago, nw baltimore wx said:

You’re still drunk.

Pattern is going to favor the East, specifically the Mid Atlantic for a while. Hey, it had to take a break out west sometime. You can tell me all about how drunk I still am, as you try to dig out of 2-3 feet of wind blown TROWAL snow. Better stock up on shovels and at least two decent blowers.

[Jebman]

Well whaddaya know? I found some moderate snow over at Palisades tonight!

Stuff is really coming down! It's NOT comin down for the Main Lodge lights at Mammoth though.

https://www.palisadestahoe.com/mountain-information/webcams#tab=alpine and

https://www.palisadestahoe.com/mountain-information/webcams#tab=palisades

Stevens Pass is getting walloped right now!! Check out these live cams! That snow is comin down HARD and it is PILING UP!

https://www.stevenspass.com/the-mountain/mountain-conditions/mountain-cams.aspx

[Ephesians2]

The snowstorm of March 2-5, 2026, was an extraordinary late-season weather event that brought widespread disruption to the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast United States. Following an otherwise average winter with near-normal temperatures, the storm emerged from a significant shift in atmospheric patterns. The North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) sharply dropped, resulting in a blocking ridge over Greenland. This pattern supported the stalling of a cutoff upper-level low, which interacted with a slow-moving surface low-pressure system. As the storm meandered over Alabama, Georgia, and North Carolina before stalling off the Outer Banks, it created a unique setup for prolonged and intense snowfall across the region.

Temperatures during the storm hovered near freezing, creating a perfect environment for heavy, wet snow. On March 4th, snowfall rates of 2 to 4 inches per hour were recorded across Virginia and Maryland, making travel nearly impossible and leading to widespread power outages. The Washington, D.C. area experienced significant snowfall, with totals of 12.6 inches at DCA, 18.1 inches at IAD, and 16.2 inches at BWI. The heaviest snow, however, fell in a corridor stretching southwest of D.C., from Roanoke and Lynchburg, Virginia, to Winchester and Hagerstown, Maryland. Another secondary maximum extended across southern and eastern Maryland into southern Delaware. Augusta and Rockingham Counties in Virginia reported over two feet of snow, tying records set during the historic Blizzard of 1993.

This snowstorm's impact was particularly severe due to the timing and intensity of the snowfall. With spring nearing, many areas were unprepared for such a significant winter event, amplifying the disruption. The storm not only highlighted the unpredictable nature of late-season winter weather but also underscored the importance of atmospheric dynamics, such as the NAO and upper-level blocking patterns, in shaping regional weather extremes. In the aftermath, the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast faced days of recovery, as residents worked to dig out from the heavy snowfall and return to normalcy.

 

[Gonzo]

Mini family vacay at Wintergreen the last four nights. Enjoyed tubing in the fake snow. But my son and I wanted the real thing. So we drove northwest on 250, seemingly forever, and finally found solid snowpack atop Allegha(e)ny Mountain. And then we kept going, almost to Snowshoe, before we realized there's no viable loop back to Wintergreen (anyone know how long it would take to drive 92 south all the way to I-64?) that wouldn't take some insane amount of time. Anyway, can't wait to maybe get some of the real thing up here in Springfield. 

[wasnow215]

1 hour ago, Ephesians2 said:

The snowstorm of March 2-5, 2026, was an extraordinary late-season weather event that brought widespread disruption to the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast United States. Following an otherwise average winter with near-normal temperatures, the storm emerged from a significant shift in atmospheric patterns. The North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) sharply dropped, resulting in a blocking ridge over Greenland. This pattern supported the stalling of a cutoff upper-level low, which interacted with a slow-moving surface low-pressure system. As the storm meandered over Alabama, Georgia, and North Carolina before stalling off the Outer Banks, it created a unique setup for prolonged and intense snowfall across the region.

Temperatures during the storm hovered near freezing, creating a perfect environment for heavy, wet snow. On March 4th, snowfall rates of 2 to 4 inches per hour were recorded across Virginia and Maryland, making travel nearly impossible and leading to widespread power outages. The Washington, D.C. area experienced significant snowfall, with totals of 12.6 inches at DCA, 18.1 inches at IAD, and 16.2 inches at BWI. The heaviest snow, however, fell in a corridor stretching southwest of D.C., from Roanoke and Lynchburg, Virginia, to Winchester and Hagerstown, Maryland. Another secondary maximum extended across southern and eastern Maryland into southern Delaware. Augusta and Rockingham Counties in Virginia reported over two feet of snow, tying records set during the historic Blizzard of 1993.

This snowstorm's impact was particularly severe due to the timing and intensity of the snowfall. With spring nearing, many areas were unprepared for such a significant winter event, amplifying the disruption. The storm not only highlighted the unpredictable nature of late-season winter weather but also underscored the importance of atmospheric dynamics, such as the NAO and upper-level blocking patterns, in shaping regional weather extremes. In the aftermath, the Mid-Atlantic and Southeast faced days of recovery, as residents worked to dig out from the heavy snowfall and return to normalcy.

 

2026? Is this like Back to the Future?

[Jebman]

Mt Bachelor is getting smashed by heavy snow too!

 

[Jebman]

54 minutes ago, wasnow215 said:

2026? Is this like Back to the Future?

Even Better!

[Stormchaserchuck1]

10/16 games Ravens have played so far have been against playoff teams. That is even after playing them, Ravens are 7-3 in those games. Cincy 2x not included. This is a good team. 

[Herb@MAWS]

i think week #16 Packers shutout over Saints was first shutout this year in NFL. 

Ravens could’ve/should've had #2 yesterday. Solid team win!

[wxdude64]

8 hours ago, Gonzo said:

Mini family vacay at Wintergreen the last four nights. Enjoyed tubing in the fake snow. But my son and I wanted the real thing. So we drove northwest on 250, seemingly forever, and finally found solid snowpack atop Allegha(e)ny Mountain. And then we kept going, almost to Snowshoe, before we realized there's no viable loop back to Wintergreen (anyone know how long it would take to drive 92 south all the way to I-64?) that wouldn't take some insane amount of time. Anyway, can't wait to maybe get some of the real thing up here in Springfield. 

Rt 39 at Marlinton from Rt 219 (or Huntersville if you came down Rt 28 or 92 at Minnehaha Springs) east would have taken you back to Lexington. Two lane road (as most are out this way) but very pretty drive. Rt 92 down to White Sulphur is about 30 minutes from the turn-off of Rt 39 at the state line, then you'd been on 64 E to Lexington. 

[dailylurker]

Is tropical tidbits down for anyone else? It won't load on my phone. 

[Paleocene]

12 minutes ago, dailylurker said:

Is tropical tidbits down for anyone else? It won't load on my phone. 

Yup. Need my morning fix and can't get it

[Gonzo]

3 hours ago, wxdude64 said:

Rt 39 at Marlinton from Rt 219 (or Huntersville if you came down Rt 28 or 92 at Minnehaha Springs) east would have taken you back to Lexington. Two lane road (as most are out this way) but very pretty drive. Rt 92 down to White Sulphur is about 30 minutes from the turn-off of Rt 39 at the state line, then you'd been on 64 E to Lexington. 

Thanks! There was zero cell service out that way, at least for me, so I was just guessing on routes.

[SomeguyfromTakomaPark]

Are we already at the part where our drool worthy 500 long range looks will obviously produce nothing? Or are people just being impatient?

[Rhino16]

2 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said:

Are we already at the part where our drool worthy 500 long range looks will obviously produce nothing? Or are people just being impatient?

I can’t be too down if we’re seeing fantasy storms. I can’t remember seeing too many of those in recent years. If it means I need to drive up a hill to see some snow, I’ll do it. As long as it’s cold.

[BTRWx's Thanks Giving]

I saw an interesting movie last night on Amazon Prime called Christmas Twisters. There was a lot of false reality, but it was alright. Was anyone aware this movie existed?

[wxdude64]

3 hours ago, Gonzo said:

Thanks! There was zero cell service out that way, at least for me, so I was just guessing on routes.

You're in the 'quiet zone' out that way for the Greenbank Radio Ob. SOME cell service with V (usually on the hills/peaks), goose egg with AT&T.

[Jebman]

Well folks ----- Mammoth Main Lodge is getting snow tonight ---- And the Main Lodge LIGHT is ON!!!

https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/main-lodge

NO DAMN TEQUILA FOR ME! I AM GONNA WATCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man that WIND is really blowin all that snow all over the place!!!! At times, the wind gusts to 77mph turning the place into a wild milkshake froth!

Kirkwood is getting shredded pretty good, too!

https://www.kirkwood.com/the-mountain/mountain-conditions/mountain-cams.aspx

[NorthArlington101]

Just now, HighStakes said:

There's nothing better than that elusive 2-3 week period of deep winter. Constant tracking and sustained snow pack. There's nothing wrong with several consecutive moderate events. 

psu would rather a snowless winter than getting nickled and dimed. Maybe he'd be okay with getting quartered and half-dollared

[Jebman]

4 hours ago, NorthArlington101 said:

psu would rather a snowless winter than getting nickled and dimed. Maybe he'd be okay with getting quartered and half-dollared

What you guys have coming, is getting 5 million dollared by snow.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Wifey picked me up a bottle of this Dragon's Milk D20 Barrel Aged Imperial Stout for Christmas (she's the best). Looks like it will be amazing. Wondering if anyone has had it before? I'm likely going to age it in the cellar for a year or two as I do with most big Stouts. Found a dogfish head 120min ipa down there from 2 years ago...considering breaking it out. Will likely wait for our first WSW of the season however.

@CAPE @Scraff

[Interstate]

On 12/26/2024 at 2:32 PM, BTRWx's Thanks Giving said:

I saw an interesting movie last night on Amazon Prime called Christmas Twisters. There was a lot of false reality, but it was alright. Was anyone aware this movie existed?

Did you catch that in the Title of the movie they spelled Christmas wrong 

[Scraff]

43 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Wifey picked me up a bottle of this Dragon's Milk D20 Barrel Aged Imperial Stout for Christmas (she's the best). Looks like it will be amazing. Wondering if anyone has had it before? I'm likely going to age it in the cellar for a year or two as I do with most big Stouts. Found a dogfish head 120min ipa down there from 2 years ago...considering breaking it out. Will likely wait for our first WSW of the season however.

@CAPE @Scraff

Whoa. That looks epic! You have an awesome wife! I’ve not had that version. Only a few of the standard Dragon’s Milk over the years. Can’t wait for your review of that one down the line one day. I’m definitely waiting for our first WSW to crack open a few special ones as well. 

[H2O]

Guess we are doing pbp for model runs beyond day 7.  Thats how bad it is

[Jebman]

Mt Bachelor gets so much snow it is UNBELIEVABLE!

They don't slant stick, either.

They got 18 inches yesterday, 11 inches the day before, 5 inches day before that. Every weather system hits the North American Continent smashes into the Pac Northwest and Bachelor gets snow.

One thing I CRAVE, is MT BAKER getting a high resolution live streaming web cam! Those folks get annihilated all the time! In 1998-99 they piled up over ~1100 inches of pow!

[dailylurker]

I know everyone here hates Miller B storms, myself included, for obvious reasons. If they do work out for us they are one of the funnest storms to watch unfold. Once that energy transfer takes place and you start seeing the wavy banding forming as the radar blossoms. That's usually when that NNE wind start moving and the snow starts falling in sheets, and than the snow fog sets in and it's on. It's been forever since I've seen this. I like the big shields coming from the south from a Miller A, but nothing beats that blossoming of heavy snow. One of the best radar presentations I've ever seen of an incoming storm was Jan 25, 2000. That was a blossoming shield rushing in from the SE. 

[NorthArlington101]

Just now, nj2va said:

https://x.com/webberweather/status/1872981111959077370?s=46

Giddy giddy

not disagreeing that this pattern is plausibly fruitful for them (e.g., the 06z GFS run) but despite what these hyperbolic statements always say I swear Webb or someone else says this every 1-2 years

[Maestrobjwa]

44 minutes ago, dailylurker said:

I know everyone here hates Miller B storms, myself included, for obvious reasons. If they do work out for us they are one of the funnest storms to watch unfold. Once that energy transfer takes place and you start seeing the wavy banding forming as the radar blossoms. That's usually when that NNE wind start moving and the snow starts falling in sheets, and than the snow fog sets in and it's on. It's been forever since I've seen this. I like the big shields coming from the south from a Miller A, but nothing beats that blossoming of heavy snow. One of the best radar presentations I've ever seen of an incoming storm was Jan 25, 2000. That was a blossoming shield rushing in from the SE. 

Yeat but that's just it it doesn't work out enough. When was the last time it worked for our yards? I mean if you're going back to 2000 then...lol

[dailylurker]

2 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Yeat but that's just it it doesn't work out enough. When was the last time it worked for our yards? I mean if you're going back to 2000 then...lol

I did mention hating them lol. They never work out, but when they do... fun times. They normally make epic bust for our area.