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Dec 5-6th clipper threat


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6 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I don’t think they pulled BOX map into the ALB map. BOX is still too low for your area imho. They need to up your area to Union CT 
 

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Living here all these years and analyzing so many snow maps.. I would say a large proportion of Mets in both tv and non tv don’t know where we are located. About 75% of snow maps do the boob sag into far NE Tolland county and Windham county. Northern Windham county has a lot of lower elevations where they usually draw the jack . Here is a good example …in addition to BOX ( who you’d think would know SNE geography) I know Fish is just trying to convey Union only but there’s hills as high as Union to the south and SW and SE

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4 hours ago, Prismshine Productions said:

Congrats Bennington, VT on the 18z NAM

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Said no one ever.  Bennington might be the worst snow hole in VT.  Now drive a few miles east and its a completely different story.

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16 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Living here all these years and analyzing so many snow maps.. I would say a large proportion of Mets in both tv and non tv don’t know where we are located. About 75% of snow maps do the boob sag into far NE Tolland county and Windham county. Northern Windham county has a lot of lower elevations where they usually draw the jack . Here is a good example …in addition to BOX ( who you’d think would know SNE geography) I know Fish is just trying to convey Union only but there’s hills as high as Union to the south and SW and SE

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Your area is tough because by the time you get to Tolland, the highest hills are more narrow in width, so it’s like these small slivers where you’d focus the higher accumulations. So unless you know that area really well, most people will just gloss over. 
 

Even for Union, I used to always have to talk to my guy there telling him to ignore maps where they’d stop the higher accumulations near ORH and that you could extend them further south to his area. 

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3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Your area is tough because by the time you get to Tolland, the highest hills are more narrow in width, so it’s like these small slivers where you’d focus the higher accumulations. So unless you know that area really well, most people will just gloss over. 
 

Even for Union, I used to always have to talk to my guy there telling him to ignore maps where they’d stop the higher accumulations near ORH and that you could extend them further south to his area. 

Yeah totally same thing. Snow maps for this area are almost always incorrect . It makes it even more difficult in micro elevation events where like every 100 feet makes a difference 

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1 hour ago, backedgeapproaching said:

Look at HRRR and 3k. Bennington never jacks, its a pit. Its east and northeast of them. They will probably still get a few inches though, I know your new-ish to SVT, lot of terrain nuances come into play on pretty much every system, even clippers.

I drive through Bennington at least every couple of weeks on the way to my cabin near Stratton. The lack of snow in Bennington is almost astounding. There’s almost never snow there all winter. But go up route 9 into Searsburg and Woodford and it’s a whole different story.

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37 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I looked at that. It looks like some sort of WF convergence because flow is SW. 

yeah, it’s not some deep layer WNW flow… but there has to be a westerly moisture feed/boundary creating lift as the WF slowly migrates north.  

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12 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yeah totally same thing. Snow maps for this area are almost always incorrect . It makes it even more difficult in micro elevation events where like every 100 feet makes a difference 

I'd feel better about your spot especially after seeing the latest HRR than where I am, you're just high enough and west enough to get the goods.

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20 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yeah totally same thing. Snow maps for this area are almost always incorrect . It makes it even more difficult in micro elevation events where like every 100 feet makes a difference 

Yeah. It’s impossible with the topography out there so get ready to be included in a 1-3 with lollipops to 4” zone lol. 

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yeah totally same thing. Snow maps for this area are almost always incorrect . It makes it even more difficult in micro elevation events where like every 100 feet makes a difference 

That's why the issuance of maps for many areas has to accompanied by a detailed topo discussion; better yet an in-person phone conversation.  There is almost no way to accurately depict the gradient across your area; same for portions of western & west-central CT.

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9 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

I don’t think they pulled BOX map into the ALB map. BOX is still too low for your area imho. They need to up your area to Union CT 
 

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HREF and Euro look better in NE CT (also GFS, RGEM, and 6z HRRR) so I wonder if BOX shifts a bit south with their next map.  
 

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9 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

I don’t think they pulled BOX map into the ALB map. BOX is still too low for your area imho. They need to up your area to Union CT 
 

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New map is indeed better for eastern hills and looks a lot like the HREF

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Also the last 2 RGEM runs have put a bullseye right over Kevin’s house for some reason:

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Some of the qpf will be used to wetbulb I think especially south of ORH. Still some questions as to exactly where the precip shield blossoms too. But that BOX map looks decent. Don’t expect anything around BOS other than ending as flakes.

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