December 2024

[David-LI]

[Allsnow]

Just now, David-LI said:

Congrats @MJO812

[jm1220]

54 minutes ago, David-LI said:

Some mood flakes/a coating is always nice. These IVT are impossible to pin down until they happen so hopefully it verifies. 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

Too bad the only time we were able to have any cold air with the Nino driven storms was was early Feb. We did make it count somewhat. 

While 23-24 and 22-23 were both in the top 3 for warmth, at least the El Niño driven STJ was able to improve the snowfall situation in 23-24. 

 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

1	2001-2002	41.5	0
2	2022-2023	41.0	0
-	2015-2016	41.0	0
3	2023-2024	40.6	0
4	2011-2012	40.5	0
5	1931-1932	40.1	0
6	1997-1998	39.6	0
7	2016-2017	39.3	0
8	2019-2020	39.2	0
9	1990-1991	39.1	0
10	1998-1999	38.6	0

[Brian5671]

16 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Some mood flakes/a coating is always nice. These IVT are impossible to pin down until they happen so hopefully it verifies. 

some areas may have trouble accumulating given temps in the mid to upper 30's at least for some of the event

[jconsor]

https://x.com/yconsor/status/1869457576339136768

[bluewave]

22 minutes ago, jconsor said:

https://x.com/yconsor/status/1869457576339136768

While we won’t have the highest departures here, it will be one of the warmest last weeks of December on record for the North American continent.  

 

[Allsnow]

21 minutes ago, jconsor said:

https://x.com/yconsor/status/1869457576339136768

Looks like perhaps one day in the middle 50’s…

 

 

[EastonSN+]

10 minutes ago, bluewave said:

While we won’t have the highest departures here, it will be one of the warmest last weeks of December on record for the North American continent.  

 

That warmth is country wide as apposed to the last couple of years where we were dealing with a deep RNA. That being said ending at -2.1 for the month with that look is impressive.

 

 

[bluewave]

13 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

That warmth is country wide as apposed to the last couple of years where we were dealing with a deep RNA. That being said ending at -2.1 for the month with that look is impressive.

 

 

The whole area averaged out will probably be not too far from normal by the end of the month as we are currently at -1.3 for the local station average. 3 cooler departure days coming up with 3 around average. Then the 26st to 31st will be back above average.
 

EWR….-0.9

NYC….-1.9

HPN….-1.1

LGA….-1.9

JFK…..+0.2

ISP…..-1.5

BDR…..-1.8

 

AVG….-1.3

[EastonSN+]

7 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The whole area averaged out will probably be not too far from normal by the end of the month as we are currently at -1.3 for the local station average. 3 cooler departure days coming up with 3 around average. Then the 26st to 31st will be back above average.
 

EWR….-0.9

NYC….-1.9

HPN….-1.1

LGA….-1.9

JFK…..+0.2

ISP…..-1.5

BDR…..-1.8

 

AVG….-1.3

Odd to see JFK that far off than the rest of the list.

Was December 2018 the last December that NYC averaged -2 for the month? Or the entire region -1.5?

[Allsnow]

11 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The whole area averaged out will probably be not too far from normal by the end of the month as we are currently at -1.3 for the local station average. 3 cooler departure days coming up with 3 around average. Then the 26st to 31st will be back above average.
 

EWR….-0.9

NYC….-1.9

HPN….-1.1

LGA….-1.9

JFK…..+0.2

ISP…..-1.5

BDR…..-1.8

 

AVG….-1.3

Looks like the month is locked to come in below normal but no snow to show for it 

[EastonSN+]

1 minute ago, Allsnow said:

Looks like the month is locked to come in below normal but no snow to show for it 

I would much rather have the same outcome as February 2018 which was far above average temperature wise and we still managed to get a moderate snow storm. 

[Allsnow]

1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said:

I would much rather have the same outcome as February 2018 which was far above average temperature wise and we still managed to get a moderate snow storm. 

With the new climate I’m not sure that is even possible anymore. 

[EastonSN+]

1 minute ago, Allsnow said:

With the new climate I’m not sure that is even possible anymore. 

If the precipitation comes in overnight and is heavy enough then it probably could.

[MANDA]

11 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Looks like the month is locked to come in below normal but no snow to show for it 

The NW corner of the state did well.  I'm sitting at 9.1" on the season and NW of me in higher elevations they did even better, especially the NW corner of Sussex County.   Certainly once south of Rt. 80 and especially Rt. 78 there is nothing to show for December ending a degree or so below normal, albeit against our warmest set of normals.  Certainly elevation played a huge part in who got snow this month.

[Allsnow]

Just now, MANDA said:

The NW corner of that state did well.  I'm sitting at 9.1" on the season and NW of me in higher elevations they did even better, especially the NW corner of Sussex County.   Certainly once south of Rt. 80 and especially Rt. 78 there is nothing to show for December ending a degree or so below normal, albeit against our warmest set of normals.  Certainly elevation played a huge part in who got snow this month.

Didn’t most of that fall in November? 

[MANDA]

3 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Didn’t most of that fall in November? 

Yes, you are correct.  I was referencing the season to date and you were speaking about December.  Sorry. 

6.5" in November and 2.6" so far in December.  Not expecting much additional in December, less than 1" I suspect.

[forkyfork]

hooray it might be 48 and cloudy instead of 60 and sunny

[bluewave]

20 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Odd to see JFK that far off than the rest of the list.

Was December 2018 the last December that NYC averaged -2 for the month? Or the entire region -1.5?

December 2022 was the last time the 7 station average finished below average at -0.5. 
 

EWR….+0.3

NYC….-0.6

LGA…..-1.3

JFK…..-0.8

HPN…..-0.1

BDR….-0.9

ISP……-0.3

avg…-0.5

[LVblizzard]

Very surprised @MJO812hasn’t posted the 15z SREF mean. It’s west and has a large area of 1-3”.

[jm1220]

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

some areas may have trouble accumulating given temps in the mid to upper 30's at least for some of the event

I’m a little over 10 miles from the ocean and 200 ft elevation, hopefully that helps. 

[MJO812]

13 minutes ago, LVblizzard said:

Very surprised @MJO812hasn’t posted the 15z SREF mean. It’s west and has a large area of 1-3”.

I'm back

Nam is also super close 

[forkyfork]

2 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

I'm back

Nam is also super close 

and you get rain

[MJO812]

Just now, forkyfork said:

and you get rain

Because precip is weak. Future runs should be interesting.