North and West Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Dry useless cold. Woohoo! Good to control bugs with no snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 2 hours ago, bluewave said: This has been one of the least snowy starts to a new decade that we have seen through the halfway point. The one thing that sets this one apart is that it’s easily the warmest. So for both warmth and lack of snow this is in 1st place so far. While we can see the 1950s decades was off to a similarly slow start, this decade so far is warmer. The early 50s were drier so there was less precipitation contributing to the lower totals. We have been wetter in the 2020s so a greater percentage of our total precipitation is falling as rain than in the 1950s. Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.0 T 2.6 4.4 7.1 0.1 T 14.2 2019-2020 0.0 0.0 2.5 2.3 T T T 4.8 2020-2021 0.0 0.0 10.5 2.1 26.0 T 0.0 38.6 2021-2022 0.0 T 0.2 15.3 2.0 0.4 0.0 17.9 2022-2023 0.0 0.0 T T 2.2 0.1 0.0 2.3 2023-2024 0.0 T T 2.3 5.2 T 0.0 7.5 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.6 0.9 8.3 12.7 16.6 1.7 T 40.8 2009-2010 0.0 0.0 12.4 2.1 36.9 T 0.0 51.4 2010-2011 0.0 T 20.1 36.0 4.8 1.0 T 61.9 2011-2012 2.9 0.0 0.0 4.3 0.2 0.0 0.0 7.4 2012-2013 0.0 4.7 0.4 1.5 12.2 7.3 0.0 26.1 2013-2014 0.0 T 8.6 19.7 29.0 0.1 T 57.4 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean T T 8.8 8.7 8.3 2.5 1.0 29.3 1999-2000 0.0 0.0 T 9.5 5.2 0.4 1.2 16.3 2000-2001 T 0.0 13.4 8.3 9.5 3.8 0.0 35.0 2001-2002 0.0 0.0 T 3.5 T T T 3.5 2002-2003 T T 11.0 4.7 26.1 3.5 4.0 49.3 2003-2004 0.0 0.0 19.8 17.3 0.7 4.8 0.0 42.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.0 0.9 3.3 5.0 9.8 6.5 0.1 25.8 1989-1990 0.0 4.7 1.4 1.8 1.8 3.1 0.6 13.4 1990-1991 0.0 0.0 7.2 8.4 9.1 0.2 0.0 24.9 1991-1992 0.0 T 0.7 1.5 1.0 9.4 T 12.6 1992-1993 0.0 0.0 0.4 1.5 10.7 11.9 0.0 24.5 1993-1994 0.0 T 6.9 12.0 26.4 8.1 0.0 53.4 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean T T 2.6 7.1 5.0 5.2 2.1 21.9 1979-1980 T 0.0 3.5 2.0 2.7 4.6 T 12.8 1980-1981 0.0 T 2.8 8.0 T 8.6 0.0 19.4 1981-1982 0.0 0.0 2.1 11.8 0.4 0.7 9.6 24.6 1982-1983 0.0 0.0 3.0 1.9 21.5 T 0.8 27.2 1983-1984 0.0 T 1.6 11.7 0.2 11.9 0.0 25.4 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean T T 2.4 6.4 6.9 2.2 0.1 18.1 1969-1970 0.0 T 6.8 8.4 6.4 4.0 T 25.6 1970-1971 0.0 0.0 2.4 11.4 T 1.3 0.4 15.5 1971-1972 0.0 T T 2.8 17.8 2.3 T 22.9 1972-1973 T T T 1.8 0.8 0.2 T 2.8 1973-1974 0.0 0.0 2.8 7.8 9.4 3.2 0.3 23.5 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean T 0.1 11.6 7.7 9.5 5.7 T 34.6 1959-1960 0.0 0.5 15.8 2.5 1.9 18.5 0.0 39.2 1960-1961 T 0.0 18.6 16.7 18.2 1.2 T 54.7 1961-1962 0.0 T 7.7 0.6 9.6 0.2 T 18.1 1962-1963 T T 4.5 5.3 3.7 2.8 T 16.3 1963-1964 0.0 T 11.3 13.3 14.1 6.0 T 44.7 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.1 0.9 3.2 4.9 2.8 2.5 0.4 14.8 1949-1950 0.0 0.5 1.3 0.4 8.5 1.4 1.9 14.0 1950-1951 0.0 T 3.8 0.9 1.9 2.7 0.0 9.3 1951-1952 0.0 T 3.3 6.2 2.8 7.4 0.0 19.7 1952-1953 0.5 1.7 7.5 4.1 0.4 0.9 T 15.1 1953-1954 0.0 2.2 T 12.7 0.5 0.1 0.3 15.8 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 40.9 36.9 38.6 38.8 2019-2020 38.3 39.1 40.1 39.2 2020-2021 39.2 34.8 34.2 36.1 2021-2022 43.8 30.3 37.3 37.1 2022-2023 38.5 43.5 41.1 41.0 2023-2024 44.6 37.0 40.1 40.6 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 38.4 32.6 35.1 35.4 2009-2010 35.9 32.5 33.1 33.8 2010-2011 32.8 29.7 36.0 32.8 2011-2012 43.3 37.3 40.9 40.5 2012-2013 41.5 35.1 33.9 36.8 2013-2014 38.5 28.6 31.6 32.9 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 37.7 31.4 35.8 35.0 1999-2000 39.9 31.3 37.3 36.2 2000-2001 31.1 33.6 35.9 33.5 2001-2002 44.1 39.9 40.6 41.5 2002-2003 36.0 27.5 30.1 31.2 2003-2004 37.6 24.7 35.0 32.4 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 36.6 34.8 35.5 35.6 1989-1990 25.9 41.4 39.7 35.7 1990-1991 42.6 34.9 39.9 39.1 1991-1992 39.6 35.7 36.3 37.2 1992-1993 37.9 36.3 30.8 35.0 1993-1994 37.3 25.5 30.6 31.1 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 37.6 30.1 36.6 34.8 1979-1980 41.1 33.7 31.4 35.4 1980-1981 32.4 26.2 39.3 32.6 1981-1982 36.5 26.1 35.3 32.6 1982-1983 42.7 34.5 36.4 37.9 1983-1984 35.2 29.9 40.6 35.2 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 37.2 31.6 32.7 33.8 1969-1970 33.4 25.1 33.0 30.5 1970-1971 34.4 26.9 35.1 32.1 1971-1972 40.8 35.0 31.4 35.7 1972-1973 38.5 35.5 32.5 35.5 1973-1974 39.0 35.2 31.7 35.3 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 33.5 32.0 33.1 32.9 1959-1960 38.4 33.9 36.3 36.2 1960-1961 30.9 27.7 36.6 31.7 1961-1962 35.5 32.6 31.8 33.3 1962-1963 31.5 30.1 28.2 29.9 1963-1964 31.2 35.6 32.8 33.2 Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 38.6 36.6 36.6 37.3 1949-1950 39.4 41.8 31.6 37.6 1950-1951 34.9 36.4 36.9 36.1 1951-1952 39.1 36.2 36.2 37.2 1952-1953 38.4 37.6 38.4 38.1 1953-1954 41.3 30.8 40.1 37.4 Monthly Total Precipitation for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 5.13 3.64 2.85 4.39 16.00 2019-2020 7.09 1.93 2.54 3.78 15.34 2020-2021 4.61 2.31 5.13 3.41 15.46 2021-2022 1.39 4.29 3.23 2.39 11.30 2022-2023 5.83 4.38 1.28 3.32 14.81 2023-2024 6.71 5.28 2.05 9.06 23.10 Monthly Total Precipitation for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.88 3.33 2.61 4.87 14.70 1949-1950 2.28 2.26 4.44 2.73 11.71 1950-1951 4.32 3.31 3.05 5.62 16.30 1951-1952 4.28 4.55 1.38 4.00 14.21 1952-1953 4.12 4.90 2.37 8.76 20.15 1953-1954 4.42 1.65 1.81 3.25 11.13 The problem with using Central Park DATA is that it is not representative of what actually fell across other areas of the immediate metro - such as last year -when areas just west and southwest of the city in Union/Middlesex County NJ received almost 20 inches total for the season - by the way if you can see The Freedom Tower or the Empire State building from certain points in your town in the distance you are in the immediate NYC metro...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 1 hour ago, EWR757 said: One nice thing about the stratus and fog on Monday is that the good people of NJ didn't see any space aliens or UFOs, also known as aircraft landing at EWR and TEB. As the weather becomes VFR later today the "UFOs" should be visible again, well at least when said observers aren't looking at their TikTok or SKIMs discount messages. From NY Center last week “use caution for lasers. I have had more laser reports along the NJ coast in the last hour than in the last 5 years” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: Havent used mine since Jan 2022 Used it once last year. Didn’t really need to though, just wanted to haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 15 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: From NY Center last week “use caution for lasers. I have had more laser reports along the NJ coast in the last hour than in the last 5 years” Ya because idiots trying to shoot down the drones (planes) with lasers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Ya because idiots trying to shoot down the drones (planes) with lasers . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 10 hours ago, MJO812 said: Cmc has mood flakes for Christmas Eve and cold for both Christmas Eve and Day I would take the mood flakes and run in a heartbeat. I think that’s the best it’ll get in this pattern, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 54 / 49 cloudy. Clearing later and mid/upper 50s. More rain Wednesday 0.25 - 0.50. Warm through friday then colder Sat - Christmas eve before a Warmer close to the month with strong ridge building plains eastward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 2 minutes ago, Eduardo said: I would take the mood flakes and run in a heartbeat. I think that’s the best it’ll get in this pattern, unfortunately. I think it's over for a big storm this weekend but maybe we can eek out some light snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Records: Highs: EWR: 66 (2000) NYC: 62 (2000) LGA: 62 (2021) JFK: 61 (2021) Lows: EWR: 6 (1951) NYC: 1 (1919) LGA: 9 (1951) JFK: 16 (1973) Historical: 1884 - A three week blockade of snow began at Portland, OR. A record December total of 34 inches was received. (David Ludlum) 1903: Wilbur and Orville Wright made four brief flights at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina with their first powered aircraft on this day. After having success with their 5-foot biplane kite, the brothers realized the weather conditions in Dayton were not ideal for their flying experiments. They wrote the Weather Bureau in Washington, D.C. requesting a list of suitable places on the east coast where winds were constant. Below is the response the Wright Brothers received from Joseph Dosher, who staffed the Weather Bureau office, wrote in August of 1900 regarding the suitability of Kitty Hawk. 1924 - A severe icestorm struck central Illinois. It coated the ground with nearly two inches of glaze at Springfield. The storm caused 21 million dollars damage along with much hardship. Ice was on the trees until the 4th of January, and electricity was not restored until January 10th. (David Ludlum) 1924: From the Monthly Weather Review, "a severe glaze storm occurred in west-central Illinois on December 17 and 18, the area of great destruction embracing a territory about 75 miles in width and 170 miles in length. In the affected area, trees were badly damaged, wires broken, and thousands of electric poles went down. Electric services were paralyzed, and it required weeks to restore operation and months to permanently rebuild the lines. The street railway company and the Illinois Traction System resumed complete operation 17 days after the storm. Electric light service was completely restored January 10. The ice had practically disappeared from the trees and wires by January 4, but on January 20, there was still considerable ice on the ground. The Western Union Telegraph Co. lost 8,000 poles and the Illinois Bell Telephone Co. about 23,000. The total damage to wire service in Illinois probably equaled or exceeded $5,000,000." If the loss of business, the damage to trees and possible injury to winter grains, the storm may be considered one of the most disastrous of its kind in the history of Illinois." 1929 - An icestorm in western New York State resulted in much damage and hardship. A Buffalo report stated, "one was kept awake by the breaking limbs, which snapped off with a report much louder than a rifle shot." (17th-18th) (The Weather Channel) 1987 - A storm in the southwestern U.S. brought heavy rain and heavy snow to parts of California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico. Charleston NV was blanketed with 12 inches of snow. Lake Havasu City AZ was drenched with 2.26 inches of rain. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - Squalls brought locally heavy snow to the southeastern shores of Lake Michigan. Totals in Michigan ranged up to 14 inches at Harvey. Totals in Ohio ranged up to 16 inches at Chardon. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Twenty-one cities from Kentucky to Pennsylvania reported record low temperatures for the date, including Columbus OH with a reading of 12 degrees below zero. Heavy snow continued in the Colorado Rockies. Vail received 65 inches of snow between the 14th and the 18th of December. Steamboat Springs was buried under 74 inches, and reported a total of 108 inches of snow between the 10th and the 18th of the month. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 2002 - Thunderstorms preceding a strong cold front pushed into the U.S. Mississippi Valley, producing severe weather and tornadoes. Three people were killed in Missouri and Arkansas with more than 40 injuries (Associated Press). 2008 - A winter storm dumped as much as 3.6 inches of snow across Las Vegas, Nevada, prompting the closure of schools and highways. This was the largest December snowfall on record and the heaviest snowfall since January 1979 when a total of 7.5 inches fell (Associated Press). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Nice mood flakes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxstormwatcher360 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 23 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Nice mood flakes All models have crept closer to the coast cept the gfs. The nam looks interesting even if it is at the tail of its run. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 zzz 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 a very nice reprieve from the cold today.. many people are wearing hoodies.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Nice little Xmas snowstorm on the 12z GFS just north of NYC. The GFS has been hinting at this kind of setup for several runs with limited support from other models. As shown it's an unlikely outcome, but something else to watch. As yesterday morning's short duration, moderate snowfall across parts of the LHV demonstrates, with cold air in place it doesn't take a perfect setup to get a beautiful wintry scene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 57 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 i think the warm spots approach 65 today 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Dream Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 This forum has a lot of trolls lol 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 31 minutes ago, Blue Dream said: This forum has a lot of trolls lol 41 minutes ago, eduggs said: Nice little Xmas snowstorm on the 12z GFS just north of NYC. The GFS has been hinting at this kind of setup for several runs with limited support from other models. As shown it's an unlikely outcome, but something else to watch. As yesterday morning's short duration, moderate snowfall across parts of the LHV demonstrates, with cold air in place it doesn't take a perfect setup to get a beautiful wintry scene. when you least expect - its going to happen - not many below average by a few degrees Decembers have no snow even 83 and 89 had over an inch....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 44 minutes ago, nycwinter said: a very nice reprieve from the cold today.. many people are wearing hoodies.. wifebeater! hoodie is for the 30 degree days for the 287 folks. u cement dwellers dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 1 minute ago, NEG NAO said: when you least expect - its going to happen - not many below average by a few degrees Decembers have no snow even 83 and 89 had over an inch....... not many below normal December‘s consistently have days around 60. What is this like a once a week occurrence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Just now, the_other_guy said: not many below normal December‘s consistently have days around 60. What is this like a once a week occurrence? thats the product of this hyper active pacific flow ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 3 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: not many below normal December‘s consistently have days around 60. What is this like a once a week occurrence? by Sunday morning wind chills single digits and temps in the teens ........month will avg below normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxoutlooksblog Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 The weekend system at least for now is done. Almost no chance of anything from this as the Euro takes it further out to sea. WX/PT https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ec-fast/2024121712/ec-fast_z500_mslp_us_4.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 25 minutes ago, Wxoutlooksblog said: The weekend system at least for now is done. Almost no chance of anything from this as the Euro takes it further out to sea. WX/PT https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ec-fast/2024121712/ec-fast_z500_mslp_us_4.png The IVT trough feature is t he only hope for something albeit little but good luck with those-very fickle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 This forum has a lot of trolls lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 1 hour ago, psv88 said: 59 Beautiful out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 60 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 17 Share Posted December 17 Gorgeous. After this weekend/Christmas I’m about done with cold without snow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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