H2Otown_WX Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 49 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: 07 wiped out a good pack on Christmas Eve in short order. Oh ok, well initially we were only talking about appreciable snowfall prior to Christmas in CT outside of the NW Hills I guess. Whether or not that stayed on the ground until Christmas is different but either way we get a White Christmas at least some of the time. Certainly not as often as Worcester or NNE obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wxsniss Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Thoughts? Anyone try this? Part of me hopes this is just more typical hype than an actual game changer… I think we’d all miss the suspense and art of forecasting snow storms. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/04/science/google-ai-weather-forecast.html https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08252-9 “ Here we introduce GenCast, a probabilistic weather model with greater skill and speed than the top operational medium-range weather forecast in the world, ENS, the ensemble forecast of the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts4. GenCast is an ML weather prediction method, trained on decades of reanalysis data. GenCast generates an ensemble of stochastic 15-day global forecasts, at 12-h steps and 0.25° latitude–longitude resolution, for more than 80 surface and atmospheric variables, in 8 min. It has greater skill than ENS on 97.2% of 1,320 targets we evaluated and better predicts extreme weather, tropical cyclone tracks and wind power production.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Tsunami warning for norcal. Looks like warning means it's about to go down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 38 minutes ago, amarshall said: Tsunami warning for norcal. Looks like warning means it's about to go down. https://tsunami.gov/events/PHEB/2024/12/05/24340001/2/WEPA40/WEPA40.txt ZCZC WEPA40 PHEB 051929 TSUPAC TSUNAMI MESSAGE NUMBER 2 NWS PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER HONOLULU HI 1927 UTC THU DEC 5 2024 ...PTWC FINAL TSUNAMI THREAT MESSAGE... **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE ***** THIS MESSAGE IS ISSUED FOR INFORMATION ONLY IN SUPPORT OF THE UNESCO/IOC PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING AND MITIGATION SYSTEM AND IS MEANT FOR NATIONAL AUTHORITIES IN EACH COUNTRY OF THAT SYSTEM. NATIONAL AUTHORITIES WILL DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF ALERT FOR EACH COUNTRY AND MAY ISSUE ADDITIONAL OR MORE REFINED INFORMATION. **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE ***** THE TSUNAMI FORECAST IS UNCHANGED IN THIS MESSAGE. PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE PARAMETERS --------------------------------- * MAGNITUDE 7.0 * ORIGIN TIME 1844 UTC DEC 5 2024 * COORDINATES 40.3 NORTH 124.7 WEST * DEPTH 13 KM / 8 MILES * LOCATION NEAR THE COAST OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA EVALUATION ---------- * NOTE REVISED MAGNITUDE * AN EARTHQUAKE WITH A PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE OF 7.0 OCCURRED NEAR THE COAST OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AT 1844 UTC ON THURSDAY DECEMBER 5 2024. * BASED ON ALL AVAILABLE DATA... THE TSUNAMI THREAT FROM THIS EARTHQUAKE HAS NOW PASSED. TSUNAMI THREAT FORECAST...UPDATED --------------------------------- * THERE IS NO LONGER A TSUNAMI THREAT FROM THIS EARTHQUAKE. RECOMMENDED ACTIONS ------------------- * REMAIN OBSERVANT AND EXERCISE NORMAL CAUTION NEAR THE SEA. OTHERWISE... NO ACTION IS REQUIRED. NEXT UPDATE AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION -------------------------------------- * THIS WILL BE THE FINAL STATEMENT ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT UNLESS NEW INFORMATION IS RECEIVED OR THE SITUATION CHANGES. * AUTHORITATIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EARTHQUAKE FROM THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY CAN BE FOUND ON THE INTERNET AT EARTHQUAKE.USGS.GOV. * FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THIS EVENT MAY BE FOUND AT WWW.TSUNAMI.GOV. * COASTAL REGIONS OF HAWAII... AMERICAN SAMOA... GUAM... AND CNMI SHOULD REFER TO PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER MESSAGES SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE PLACES THAT CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.TSUNAMI.GOV. * COASTAL REGIONS OF CALIFORNIA... OREGON... WASHINGTON... BRITISH COLUMBIA AND ALASKA SHOULD ONLY REFER TO U.S. NATIONAL TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER MESSAGES THAT CAN BE FOUND AT WWW.TSUNAMI.GOV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 Question for the SNE folks> Do you put snow tires on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 12 hours ago, klw said: Question for the SNE folks> Do you put snow tires on? I have all weather tires, they're ok and never had a problem with my all wheel drive. Different story when I had a truck, used to get some good tires like Blizzaks that would go through everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 11 hours ago, klw said: Question for the SNE folks> Do you put snow tires on? not down here in flatland country, but if i lived where you do, i probably would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 You can get around just fine in the snow with good tires. Even when I had my front wheel drive Accord, newer tires make a big difference. I had car in 14-15 so that should tell you a lot lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 Reason I ask is that it is not infrequent to see out of state vehicles, inc awd vehicles, off the road up here. I passed one which was upside down in a ditch this morning. Last night I was behind a small SUV with Mass plates on RTE 100 just south of Stowe. They fishtailed all over the road and then went about 100 yards up a hill before half pulling over and stopping. It looked like they had little traction. I have no idea how they were going to get up the rest of the way from where they stopped but my FWD Prius did fine with its studded Hakkas. When we lived in RI we switched to winter tires but after the last few years I wonder if that happens less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 I've never even entertained the idea of snow tires. But I can see why in NNE. I guess for me if I was driving and noticed the road snow and ice covered as I was going uphill, I would likely just turn around. I've certainly driven on a snow covered hill...but your tire treads do matter. I once barely made it up my neighborhood in snow with lousy tires. Got new ones the next day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 Never used them…just all season tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewbeer Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 2 hours ago, klw said: Reason I ask is that it is not infrequent to see out of state vehicles, inc awd vehicles, off the road up here. I passed one which was upside down in a ditch this morning. Last night I was behind a small SUV with Mass plates on RTE 100 just south of Stowe. They fishtailed all over the road and then went about 100 yards up a hill before half pulling over and stopping. It looked like they had little traction. I have no idea how they were going to get up the rest of the way from where they stopped but my FWD Prius did fine with its studded Hakkas. When we lived in RI we switched to winter tires but after the last few years I wonder if that happens less. I had studded snows a long time ago on a front wheel drive Datsun, it was unstoppable as long as there was clearance from snow underneath. It was also a bit scary on dry pavement at highway speeds. I've taken may ski trips up I91 to VT in my front wheel drive cars and every time i've gone and it's been snowy i've seen 4x4s and SUVs usually with southern flatlander tags off the road. I think people don't get that 4 wheel drive doesn't mean 8 wheel brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 If I remember from my time in RI, one of the reasons I switched over to snows in winter is that the Nokias were less expensive than my all-season tires so it seemed like a cost saving way to prolong the life of the all-seasons. It appealed to my cheap self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 I think studded tires are overrated in most situations. If you drive a lot of dirt roads they are fine but they can't bite into pavement, even if it is snow covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 snow tires? bahahahahaha never even had them not even on my RWD '76 Monte Carlo. Only took out 1 snow bank in the 2 years i owned that POS. also that POS got me and gf from Plymouth State to Manchester NH in a blinding snowstorm back in the 80's when it used to snow. it may have taken 3 hours, but got us there, with the 3+season Uniroyals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Snow tires were used in the 80’s. They’re not even a real thing now 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 12/4/2024 at 8:55 PM, wxsniss said: Thoughts? Anyone try this? Part of me hopes this is just more typical hype than an actual game changer… I think we’d all miss the suspense and art of forecasting snow storms. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/04/science/google-ai-weather-forecast.html https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08252-9 “ Here we introduce GenCast, a probabilistic weather model with greater skill and speed than the top operational medium-range weather forecast in the world, ENS, the ensemble forecast of the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts4. GenCast is an ML weather prediction method, trained on decades of reanalysis data. GenCast generates an ensemble of stochastic 15-day global forecasts, at 12-h steps and 0.25° latitude–longitude resolution, for more than 80 surface and atmospheric variables, in 8 min. It has greater skill than ENS on 97.2% of 1,320 targets we evaluated and better predicts extreme weather, tropical cyclone tracks and wind power production.” There are a few notable things from articles like this lately. I highlighted one of them. These companies are going to focus on things they can monetize. Kevin doesn't care about wind power production, he just wants to know if his oaks are going to end up in his living room. Otherwise they are more or less describing AI pattern recognition. They need like 40 years of reanalysis to train their model, so it's not as if they just invented a new and better model. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 14 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Snow tires were used in the 80’s. They’re not even a real thing now lol, Just put 4 studded snows on our work van, Trust me, There still a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Tires of yore 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Got the Xmas tree cut while it still feels Christmassy lol 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 12/6/2024 at 2:30 PM, dendrite said: Never used them…just all season tires. My little Ranger would be all but helpless with all-seasons, especially for getting up our driveway (all uphill) and nearby Mile Hill, a 300' elevation climb in that mile (with about 200 yards of 8-10% grade near the top) and with a sharp curve at the bottom. Good snows and a couple hundred pounds of firewood over the rear axle is good medicine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 2 hours ago, alex said: Got the Xmas tree cut while it still feels Christmassy lol Is that going in the house? Looks like you may have a high ceiling in the middle but that rivals the Griswolds tree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Just now, DavisStraight said: Is that going in the house? Looks like you may have a high ceiling in the middle but that rivals the Griswolds tree. Lol that thing belongs in a hotel lobby. Epic. Great tree though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 2 hours ago, alex said: Got the Xmas tree cut while it still feels Christmassy lol Do you live at Rockefeller Center? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 12/5/2024 at 8:35 PM, klw said: Question for the SNE folks> Do you put snow tires on? Nope. Doesn’t snow anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 21 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Do you live at Rockefeller Center? Lol we have pretty tall ceilings, might as well use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 3 hours ago, alex said: Lol we have pretty tall ceilings, might as well use them You got a Genie lift to decorate that thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokeupthisam Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 A surprising number of folks want 15ft or larger trees, we get more requests than we can fill. This was one of 4 we've sold in the past week that was 16 or more feet tall. It takes a lot of determination to lift it onto the trailer, get it stood up in a stand, secured, and decorated but there's still folks looking for these big trees. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 23 minutes ago, powderfreak said: You got a Genie lift to decorate that thing? Lol it’s quite a process. We set it up next to the stairs and the loft above so we can decorate the top half from the top floor, then carefully move it to where we want it, in the middle of the room. The results are pretty cool though. This was last years. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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