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December 2024 - Best look to an early December pattern in many a year!


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6 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

This time of year, with the solar min and strong inversions… any rain is likely to be a cold rain.  A couple degrees above normal isn’t making it more enjoyable… but we are in the time of year when even above normal can be snowy for CNE/NNE.

Yea that gfs look can be fine up there. It’s just getting repetitive for us down here with west troughs digging into Cabo. Selfishly Id rather it be 55F and dry then 40F rains in December but I understand the latter usually means snows for NNE. 

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2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Looks terrible going forward. Trough retros out west. 

At least we have cross polar flow so it’s arctic air not too far away. Still doesn’t help us a ton though if we start digging troughs into Baja and SCal. Hopefully guidance is a little too aggressive otherwise we’re prob cooked for at least a week. 

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3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

At least we have cross polar flow so it’s arctic air not too far away. Still doesn’t help us a ton though if we start digging troughs into Baja and SCal. Hopefully guidance is a little too aggressive otherwise we’re prob cooked for at least a week. 

It’s not a massive SE ridge, but I’d feel a little better in January seeing that. Just not a fan of that trough axis. Getting really tired of this.

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7 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Another hyped big cold pattern just like last December which also failed.

Last December never looked that good down there. Models did have a big NAO block but marginal cold so it would’ve been a heavy lift south of NE if it did materialize. This is different type pattern with a huge arctic dump into CONUS but in the west…more akin to Xmas week 2022 though still a few differences from that one too. 

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1 minute ago, MJO812 said:

Scooter had his doubts

I was wrong about early December. I think we knew there was progged relaxation at some point mid month. 
 

I’m just sick and tired of seeing the same stable look approaching the holidays. Perhaps it improves before that, but I’ll get jack dick from this pattern. Can we ever get a fucking break?

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31 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I don’t mean to bring anyone down. I hope I’m violently wrong like I was early December. I’m just frustrated and disgusted.

Dry weather and woodstove ash fueled brush fires to continue?? I mean we currently have the airmass, just need some storms to break the right way.  If there is any silver lining in this is that New England Ski areas can at least build a good man made base heading towards the end of the month.

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53 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Another hyped big cold pattern just like last December which also failed.

From what I saw here, the only ones hyping it were the weenies here... and all those absurd, useless forecasters on YouTube... :thumbsdown: Said it for years, STOP looking out past two weeks! 15 degrees in Westfield this A.M.

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24 minutes ago, UnitedWx said:

From what I saw here, the only ones hyping it were the weenies here... and all those absurd, useless forecasters on YouTube... :thumbsdown: Said it for years, STOP looking out past two weeks! 15 degrees in Westfield this A.M.

Euro going out to 360 is not making things any better lol

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

I don’t mean to bring anyone down. I hope I’m violently wrong like I was early December. I’m just frustrated and disgusted.

We may have had generally the right idea, just perhaps a bit more of a protracted cold shot early in the month relative to expectation, due to the extreme WWB.

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1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said:

Last December never looked that good down there. Models did have a big NAO block but marginal cold so it would’ve been a heavy lift south of NE if it did materialize. This is different type pattern with a huge arctic dump into CONUS but in the west…more akin to Xmas week 2022 though still a few differences from that one too. 

Yea...Dec 2022 was my favorite analog going in.

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