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December 2024 - Best look to an early December pattern in many a year!


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well yeah ...probably not the place for it but the pattern heading into the new year and beyond is revealing in time.   

pretty significant multi-sourced ens ( and now showing up in long range op ) suggestion now that while we likely lose the -epo tendencies, this takes place in lieu of a -nao ( over the western limb of the domain, too ) emergence

that is actually rather canonical for a +pna collapsing toward neutral or even modestly negative, that blocking materializes in the nao domain.  this is what i've been trying to describe over years, that the nao is actually directed by the dispersion off the pacific ...etc... 

not sure ( obviously ) what that will mean in the dailies, but for winter enthusiasts ... it does imply at least we alleviate the implication for a complete winter regression scenario - that was actually hinted through a couple days ago ( in guidance ..) for the times after xmas, because it there was less signal over eastern canada.

edit, actually this was the right thread lol

 

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actually this was the right thread..

anyway, that's a wildly storm prone look that's rather abruptly emerging out of the ens mean/sources ...

this operational gfs... obviously the details and dailies are not of much use at this range.  this is because there is a whole sale pattern change, moving from -(wpo/epo) +pna, into a neutral-postiive pna vestige under a robust western limbed -NAO.   that's inherently a stochastic performance arena for modeling in times like those...

but there's thread-able events potentially, as implied by the ens, so seeing it be that way is okay in principle.   the  thickness ( hydrostatic height ) gradient is quite steep between mt and the ov, and that's powder keg for pac waves that get forced through under the east canadian mode.

you guys are a bit beside yourselves for what appears to be a near miss here in the nearer term, but this system is really a positive result for the effort in recognition ( at least .. ) of the potential, so there's a huge positive take away that doesn't ( unfortunately ) d-drip .. but there's a behavior pattern going on that's sort of "intangible" that's better than worse - if that helps

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41 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

well yeah ...probably not the place for it but the pattern heading into the new year and beyond is revealing in time.   

pretty significant multi-sourced ens ( and now showing up in long range op ) suggestion now that while we likely lose the -epo tendencies, this takes place in lieu of a -nao ( over the western limb of the domain, too ) emergence

that is actually rather canonical for a +pna collapsing toward neutral or even modestly negative, that blocking materializes in the nao domain.  this is what i've been trying to describe over years, that the nao is actually directed by the dispersion off the pacific ...etc... 

not sure ( obviously ) what that will mean in the dailies, but for winter enthusiasts ... it does imply at least we alleviate the implication for a complete winter regression scenario - that was actually hinted through a couple days ago ( in guidance ..) for the times after xmas, because it there was less signal over eastern canada.

edit, actually this was the right thread lol

 

Makes sense, as @StormchaserChuck!has often cited the correlation between RNA/-NAO and +PNA/+NAO

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5 minutes ago, UnitedWx said:

10 inches. IMBY.. i seriously doubt it lol. If we can get an inch I'd be totally happy

I hate to be picky, but every Christmas Eve my sister has a huge deal at her house down in Fairfield. We live up in Plainville where the weather is always colder and more snow. The last thing I'd want is having to drive home in some snow storm Christmas Eve. But then the other side of me says I want snow for Christmas Eve Christmas Day LOL

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Just now, Snowcrazed71 said:

I hate to be picky, but every Christmas Eve my sister has a huge deal at her house down in Fairfield. We live up in Plainville where the weather is always colder and more snow. The last thing I'd want is having to drive home in some snow storm Christmas Eve. But then the other side of me says I want snow for Christmas Eve Christmas Day LOL

Yeah, I have relatives who will be absent Christmas Eve if there's any sort of snow. Oh well... more shrimp cocktail for me! :lol: They know I'll be there no matter what, Power Wagon FTW!

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