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8 hours ago, Eskimo Joe said:

Boy if we get a rug pull . . .

You guys act like this doesn’t always happen lol. I don’t even get my hopes up anymore. Just wait for a storm to come inside 4 days before I start to percolate. 

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3 hours ago, yoda said:

Well a 1042mb sprawling banana to our north in Canada definitely helps

It is what we have been missing in past years but is this real?  It is almost like models say this is what should be happening and the next run the same model comes back and says this is what you are getting and reality though in our new set up.

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55 minutes ago, TSSN+ said:

You guys act like this doesn’t always happen lol. I don’t even get my hopes up anymore. Just wait for a storm to come inside 4 days before I start to percolate. 

lol at a rug pull on an advertised h5 pattern 2 weeks out.

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Wrt the mini panic over the advertised pattern in the LR, looks like the NPJ core retracts a bit esp on the GFS/GEFS. That shifts the ridge westward some and places lower pressure in the WPO space(trends +). Even if this is real its not like the east coast is going to suddenly go warm.

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Looking at the latest operational and ens guidance Dec 6-7th and 10-12 are the 2 'threat windows' that stand out. The second looks especially interesting with potential for significant NS shortwave energy to dig southward and involve moisture from the Gulf.

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Even if the trough retracts westward, it looks more central CONUS-based rather than a deep -PNA as is typical in a Niña. Wouldn’t be a shit-the-blinds look. But let’s see what develops over the next 2 weeks first?

 

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19 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

 

 

Week 2 temps on the ensembles support plenty of cold in the east.

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Been a long time since we have seen anything other than transient cold shots.  If they still had the channel 4 Bob Ryan golden snow shovel award I’d bet on December.  

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53 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

Even if the trough retracts westward, it looks more central CONUS-based rather than a deep -PNA as is typical in a Niña. Wouldn’t be a shit-the-blinds look. But let’s see what develops over the next 2 weeks first?

 

I noted the jet retraction in my earlier post. Seems he expects it to be temporary. As advertised the shift in the longwave pattern is relatively minor, and could potentially allow for a more significant storm.

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7 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

Even if the trough retracts westward, it looks more central CONUS-based rather than a deep -PNA as is typical in a Niña. Wouldn’t be a shit-the-blinds look. But let’s see what develops over the next 2 weeks first?

 

Yea west coast ridge is my base level look for any hope of snow or cold in these parts anymore. I really, really hope this is a semi permanent festure this winter.

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Cmc with a nice evolution around day 9. 

It's pretty obvious the first week of December isnt going to produce but as the pattern relaxes a bit maybe the second week of December can.

Ops and ensembles have all hinted at that over the last few days.

Hopefully as we get into next week something will show up more concretely. 

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16 hours ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said:

18z GEFS really shifted away from last nights modeling of -EPO/+PNA in the medium-long range. Now it shows a Gulf of Alaska/Aleutian High pressure. Although the pattern may be getting wetter after Day 10, it may just be rain. 

Happy Thanksgiving! 

You know what I'm thankful for? The 'block user' feature on this forum.

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17 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

GEFS on board 

EPS too…

The 12z Euro- a lot going on here. A bit out of sync with the wave interactions but as is it develops a low in the gulf that tracks up the east coast just offshore of the outer banks. A near hit.

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41 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Hard to complain about the advertised h5 pattern on the 12z EPS heading into mid Dec. Solid look out west, TPV stretched southward towards Hudson, and indications of +heights building westward into the NAO domain.

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Don’t worry, people will find ways to complain. 

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1 hour ago, CAPE said:

Hard to complain about the advertised h5 pattern on the 12z EPS heading into mid Dec. Solid look out west, TPV stretched southward towards Hudson, and indications of +heights building westward into the NAO domain.

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GEFS is similar, almost identical

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