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Winter 2024-25 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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On 11/26/2024 at 8:06 AM, Lightning said:

Excited to have cold end of Nov. into early Dec.  Hopefully Lake Michigan provides some decent LES starting Friday into next week. 

Beyond that MJO is currently beginning to go into 4-5-6.   Those are not cold phases especially as you get into the heart of December!!  What is worse is the models are starting to shows it dragging and possibly stalling in 5.  Blast on through those phases and it would be fine but stalling / dragging through them :yikes: .  If the MJO doesn't change or another signal take over then mild will return mid-month December.

I am excited for the next couple weeks and believe there should get some snows out this even though the Thanksgiving storm has gone south on us.    Hopefully the actual MJO will not follow the models well and move quicker toward Phase 7 or dive into COD.

 

What a dumbass who posted this!!!

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4 hours ago, iluvsnow said:

BAMWX CEO Michael Clark with a fresh (12/4) analysis of the month and a half ahead. A technical look at what's driving the coming warm period and what he sees beyond. Take it for what it's worth.

Love it. :thumbsup:  Pretty much matches my expectations for next several weeks.  Really hoping we can get the cold to come back by the 25th but agree it it probably too quick based on the MJO forecasts.

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6 hours ago, Lightning said:

Love it. :thumbsup:  Pretty much matches my expectations for next several weeks.  Really hoping we can get the cold to come back by the 25th but agree it it probably too quick based on the MJO forecasts.

Yea looking at the mjo it looks like it's been dancing in the warm phases for sometime and will continue to do so....and here we are facing subzero windchills tomorrow.     OTOH the AO, NAO, and PNA, , (at least the gefs versions),    seem to be behaving like what you'd expect with our actual weather.    

It seems like the opposite of recent winters, this time the cold is really fighting back.   The eastern trough is stubborn as hell too, granted just a bit too far east for what's ideal for this sub.

Personally it's too damn early for this.  The ground is already frozen beyond workability.   Last few winters the ground rarely froze beyond a week or two and it didn't occur until Jan/Feb.     Maybe this is global warmings version of Dec 1989 and just like then, once the cold exits, winter's over.   I wish.:)

 

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3 hours ago, buckeye said:

Yea looking at the mjo it looks like it's been dancing in the warm phases for sometime and will continue to do so....and here we are facing subzero windchills tomorrow.     OTOH the AO, NAO, and PNA, , (at least the gefs versions),    seem to be behaving like what you'd expect with our actual weather.    

It seems like the opposite of recent winters, this time the cold is really fighting back.   The eastern trough is stubborn as hell too, granted just a bit too far east for what's ideal for this sub.

Personally it's too damn early for this.  The ground is already frozen beyond workability.   Last few winters the ground rarely froze beyond a week or two and it didn't occur until Jan/Feb.     Maybe this is global warmings version of Dec 1989 and just like then, once the cold exits, winter's over.   I wish.:)

 

Last year was horrible in that even if one signal was warm it WON!!  It is nice to see there is more fight this December for the cold signals.

I don't believe we will follow the same path of Dec 1989 => 1990.  I think we will be seeing some Strat warming as we get into later part of December.

I believe/hope we are headed for some fun ahead this winter.   One thing is for sure the weather does things differently every year.

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1 hour ago, roardog said:

You don’t like it if it’s cold and you don’t like it if it’s warm. You only want a record breaking storm which is unrealistic. lol

Or a respectable storm. This northwest flow is garbage and useless cold, unless you're in a snowbelt.

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Interesting read.  Could be all hype but idk..Gen Cast has already outperformed major American models

"To rigorously evaluate GenCast's performance, we trained it on historical weather data up to 2018, and tested it on data from 2019. GenCast showed better forecasting skill than ECMWF’s ENS, the top operational ensemble forecasting system that many national and local decisions depend upon every day.

We comprehensively tested both systems, looking at forecasts of different variables at different lead times — 1320 combinations in total. GenCast was more accurate than ENS on 97.2% of these targets, and on 99.8% at lead times greater than 36 hours."

 

https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/gencast-predicts-weather-and-the-risks-of-extreme-conditions-with-sota-accuracy/

 

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38 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

When you can run the gfs out to 384 with no fantasy land snow at all, you know its going to be a real winner of a month. 

Yeah, situation is looking dire. I’m a snow for the holidays guy, and winter starting mid January now a days is driving me insane. 

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When you can run the gfs out to 384 with no fantasy land snow at all, you know its going to be a real winner of a month. 

The system next week is one to watch for trends. It was a tick slower and northwest on the GFS.

After that some good opportunities for some beneficial rain.
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1 hour ago, Malacka11 said:

Can we, like, all agree to take up knitting or something? I'm getting really tired of being in an emotionally abusive relationship with fucking clouds.

 

It's amazing how much the sun and 77 degrees helps mentally and physically. My knees been killing me past few weeks. Past 2 days in florida, no pain.

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As much as I hate to disturb a pity party, the system for next Tuesday/Wednesday bears watching. Goofus wants to throw us a bone in northern Illinois. Slows the wave outbid the southwest down enough to catch some cold air.

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3 minutes ago, DocATL said:

As much as I hate to disturb a pity party, the system for next Tuesday/Wednesday bears watching. Goofus wants to throw us a bone in northern Illinois. Slows the wave outbid the southwest down enough to catch some cold air.


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Hopefully in 12 hours we'll know if we're getting shit posted on or if there's actually any chance. Not falling for it that easy. I think the trend is there to some degree on other models too but I'm pretty sure that's happened the last two times as well

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