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Winter 2024-25 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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15 minutes ago, cyclone77 said:

Sat clipper looks weak and way south now.  May be waiting a few to several weeks for MLI/DVN's first accumulating snowfall unless we can get a surprise ripple or clipper to pop up in the flow.

if the cold establishes as advertised that's most likely a worst case scenario.   

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2 hours ago, A-L-E-K said:

Prolonged cad, bummer

Obviously an overreaction but that's my winter nightmare. Cold,dry, suppressed. If it ain't gonna snow, let's torch. Useless cold pisses me off lol. Twc posted an interesting article on weak la Nina's and how the Upper Midwest usually does good in those. In recent years, great lakes region has done well during weak Nina's but as always there are other factors.

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Those outside of the lake belt can ignore this you’re if sad about no snow… lake effect set up looks good especially Friday and Sunday into Monday morning. WNW winds will favor Michigan more on Friday. Sunday could be a bigger day for northern Indiana with a more NW flow and even colder air blowing down the lake. Also noting, although outside the subforum, this should be a major lake effect event for upstate New York. Winter Storm Watches are already up there.

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Excited to have cold end of Nov. into early Dec.  Hopefully Lake Michigan provides some decent LES starting Friday into next week. 

Beyond that MJO is currently beginning to go into 4-5-6.   Those are not cold phases especially as you get into the heart of December!!  What is worse is the models are starting to shows it dragging and possibly stalling in 5.  Blast on through those phases and it would be fine but stalling / dragging through them :yikes: .  If the MJO doesn't change or another signal take over then mild will return mid-month December.

I am excited for the next couple weeks and believe there should get some snows out this even though the Thanksgiving storm has gone south on us.    Hopefully the actual MJO will not follow the models well and move quicker toward Phase 7 or dive into COD.

 

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Establish the cold. The snow will come. Pessimism on Thanksgiving doesn't play. So keep your MJO and JMO's and SST's and weak La Nina signals and analogs. Be thankful for this sick hobby that has afflicted you. 

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1 hour ago, A-L-E-K said:

baum trying too hard to remain positive, gonna be burnt out by january

While we may not get much snow, yet.  It's nice to see a pattern that can sustain cold, especially early.  The past 4 years it's been a roller coaster whiplash.  

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Canadian giving way to the GFS is so Canadian. Most energy to the north or to the south but not a ton of QPF. Those of you in lake effect areas are going to be tired of snow soon. Good call on that a few weeks ago [mention=276]michsnowfreak[/mention] !

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7 hours ago, Lightning said:

Excited to have cold end of Nov. into early Dec.  Hopefully Lake Michigan provides some decent LES starting Friday into next week. 

Beyond that MJO is currently beginning to go into 4-5-6.   Those are not cold phases especially as you get into the heart of December!!  What is worse is the models are starting to shows it dragging and possibly stalling in 5.  Blast on through those phases and it would be fine but stalling / dragging through them :yikes: .  If the MJO doesn't change or another signal take over then mild will return mid-month December.

I am excited for the next couple weeks and believe there should get some snows out this even though the Thanksgiving storm has gone south on us.    Hopefully the actual MJO will not follow the models well and move quicker toward Phase 7 or dive into COD.

 

No mild weather as far as the ensembles or weeklies can see...but obviously we know how the models are lol.

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