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Winter 2024-25 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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1 hour ago, DocATL said:


I’d be skeptical and go with pattern persistence. This carrot has been dangled a few times already.
 

Any individual area may be cynical and skeptical until they see results, but its certainly not a stretch to see how the aforementioned changes in the pattern would give the northern stream a more active look. 

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7 minutes ago, mimillman said:

Friday could put down our first lasting ground coverage of the season. Outside of the November snow which melted same day, ground has been bare all year 

Since November, Detroit had had 15 days with a T of snow on the ground and 8 days with 1", and no days with 2"+. If we can score 2"+ this weekend id be thrilled.

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3 minutes ago, Chicago916 said:

At least this next potential storm we can all just root for better phasing and negative tilt to benefit us all and possibly screw the Northeast?

i always root for anything to benefit us. I dont really care about the northeast unless it affects us directly. Most of the east coast has been in a far worse snow drought than us the last several years. The glory days when the lower Great Lakes and northeast were getting season after season of above to well average snowfall and it was always "f*ck boston" and stuff like that is now about a decade removed. Just. Give. Me. Accumulating. Snow. :lol:

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Any individual area may be cynical and skeptical until they see results, but its certainly not a stretch to see how the aforementioned changes in the pattern would give the northern stream a more active look. 

No question. I’m just not sure that those changes transpire based on what we’ve see so far. Also the possibility of the track to be too far north or west.


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16 minutes ago, mimillman said:

Friday could put down our first lasting ground coverage of the season. Outside of the November snow which melted same day, ground has been bare all year 

That's my hope. Finesse enough to cover the grass and then build on it with a clipper or two or something.

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5 minutes ago, DocATL said:


No question. I’m just not sure that those changes transpire based on what we’ve see so far. Also the possibility of the track to be too far north or west.


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Some of the positives of the projected pattern change. A much colder Canada (and a warming southern US) will likely produce a more traditional La Nina pattern. Its easy to forget as its cold out, but Canada is actually unseasonably warm right now. This would likely give a much more active northern stream and possibly even a Nina gradient, which can be a real treat. Often a storm tracking too far to your N & W will happen, but the pattern is so active you chalk up the L and wait for the next one. I can assure you, one rogue snowstorm well to the south in an otherwise sea of zzzzs with frozen, bare ground dominating the north is NOT a traditional Nina.

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28 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

i always root for anything to benefit us. I dont really care about the northeast unless it affects us directly. Most of the east coast has been in a far worse snow drought than us the last several years. The glory days when the lower Great Lakes and northeast were getting season after season of above to well average snowfall and it was always "f*ck boston" and stuff like that is now about a decade removed. Just. Give. Me. Accumulating. Snow. :lol:

Yeah I feel that. Just would love to be able to root for something at this point. It does look like we'll stay active through the end of the month with storms traversing our region. Hopefully some pan out!

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Euro keeps the next one south but gfs is more spread the wealth. Given how gfs just performed poorly with current system I'm skeptical. 

Euro has done much better and based on the pattern we’re in this makes more sense. The next system will want to follow closer to the path of the last one.


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Some of the positives of the projected pattern change. A much colder Canada (and a warming southern US) will likely produce a more traditional La Nina pattern. Its easy to forget as its cold out, but Canada is actually unseasonably warm right now. This would likely give a much more active northern stream and possibly even a Nina gradient, which can be a real treat. Often a storm tracking too far to your N & W will happen, but the pattern is so active you chalk up the L and wait for the next one. I can assure you, one rogue snowstorm well to the south in an otherwise sea of zzzzs with frozen, bare ground dominating the north is NOT a traditional Nina.

Yeah well these ain’t traditional times.


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2 hours ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Dallas will have more snow on the season than I have gotten, lol. 

 

2 hours ago, Radtechwxman said:

Same. Pathetic. Lol. Wish gfs could be right on this one but euro seems more realistic. 

 

2 hours ago, ILSNOW said:

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Still far from a lock (especially with today's model trends), but...

 

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Don't mind being nickel and dimed away from the hellhole that was the 23/24 season. Finding myself more appreciative of any amount of snow nowadays. Sort-of a nice reset insomuch that this is simply a hobby-interest. 

Only 4" more to surpass last season. Seems a rather doable task given latitude and remaining time. :snowman:

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