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Winter 2024-25 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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On 12/9/2024 at 11:45 AM, michsnowfreak said:

Believe me....I'd love to be wrong. But 2013-14 was a once in a lifetime winter.

It was for our region ofc. I think after seeing that BAMwx vid, the ref to this winter being "like 13-14" in it's background pattern of a stretched PV versus splitting the PV is not those people saying "expect the same exact results". That would be extremely unlikely, but it could mean some other region benefits in a similar manner that we did with that back-drop. If it does happen, I think greatest effects relative to average will end up S and or E of us via seasonal suppression. Meaning the cold-n-wet connection finally happens later winter, when climo says congrats NIN and NOH southwards. 

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17 hours ago, nwohweather said:

It's pretty wild how entrenched the cold has become as quickly as it has. November was extremely warm and we golfed comfortably on the 17th as the temps were in the low 60s. Fast forward not even a month and we're routinely having highs below freezing and morning lows pushing the single digits. That is quite a drop in just a few weeks, it wouldn't shock me in the least to see a few robust snowstorms roll through this region in January/February

November also had the 2nd latest freeze on record only behind November 25, 1931. The latest first freeze in 1931 was followed by the least snowiest winter of 1931-32.

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On 12/14/2024 at 12:58 PM, nwohweather said:

I don't agree with that. After today we will be at 9 of 14 days through the month with highs below 40 in Toledo. That's our average temperature in the 1st half of December, I'd say that's a pretty good stretch

Not really anything to write home about tbh.

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42 minutes ago, Frog Town said:

Face value, yes, but haven't they been missing the cold more than 7-10 out??  

I think it’s quite clear at this point the Xmas period into the end of the month is going to be warm for all of us. I didn’t believe it would be initially, but guidance has trended significantly warmer for that period. Question really is how warm. Could be anywhere from moderately above average to possibly record warm. Just have to wait and see.

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Just now, ChiTownSnow said:

Shortly after Christmas,   becomes shortly after new year, becomes mid January, becomes February we will be rocking..

Actually the Euro weeklies have been consistent with that look. Besides, if you want to be technical theyve been overdoing warmth, not cold. Plus you should be more worried about an active pattern than temps. It's been a cold December, a stark contrast to what the models showed it would be, but its been quiet.

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