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Winter 2024-25 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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32 minutes ago, Stebo said:

The system next weekend on the GFS is the most nonsensical thing I have seen 16-22 here in temp and sleet/freezing rain. That system even has 700mb temps near or above 0°.

While improbable, not impossible. I recall one storm in early January 1999, I think around the 2nd or 3rd, where precipitation started as snow but we had sleet with temperatures around or even slightly below 10F and freezing rain in the teens, although temperatures eventually climbed to around freezing or slightly above. There may have even been some lightning and thunder. That was crazy stretch in general with about three feet of snow that month, most falling in about 15 days.

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3 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said:

Of course, just as the GFS goes bonkers with next weekend's system, the Euro goes the other way and is now progressive and weak until it gets to the northeast US.

1 minute ago, Stevo6899 said:

To be honest I wouldn't even look past hour 100 anymore on the models especially in this complex pattern.

Sadly the model just are not that good especially at the surface in the mid/extended for this area.  The past few years I personally have treat anything they show at the surface beyond 60 hours is just pure :popcorn:.  Like playing the lotto; you know your not going to win but just the daytime dreaming of winning it is why many play it!

The main thing I get is that this is going to be more active than we seen all winter and there is definitely potential for some decent events!!  Much better odds ;)

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Called it

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Now models are punting the chance of any real snow until mid February.  A few more punts are we'll be moving on to spring.
Prepare for a blizzard Feb 16-19. I am going to Tampa for work that week.


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I think from Kankakee to South Bend to Detroit and points SE into OV upcoming pattern looks promising. Maybe metro Chicago gets some lake enhancement to amp up totals especially for 12th-13th system.Would like to see an amped up system moving from Terre Haute to Indy to DTW but not seeing op models show that so far. Maybe ens have some stronger solutions?

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24 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said:

Once again, for next weekend's system, models are trending toward turning the flow out of Canada and suppressing the storm.  There has been too much of that this winter.

I think at this point the important thing is that the storms are still on the models. Obviously details to be figured out at a later date. I could see how anybody say west of Chicago would have some pessimism but since we're entering a new pattern who knows.

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41 minutes ago, Cary67 said:

I think from Kankakee to South Bend to Detroit and points SE into OV upcoming pattern looks promising. Maybe metro Chicago gets some lake enhancement to amp up totals especially for 12th-13th system.Would like to see an amped up system moving from Terre Haute to Indy to DTW but not seeing op models show that so far. Maybe ens have some stronger solutions?

Nah, north of your line is in play too. Just loop the ensembles. GEFS, EPS, etc. It's a pretty good parade of systems coming through our region every 3-4-5 days. Just taking the 12z EPS through 9/10 days: it's this coming Wednesday, next weekend, and then next Tuesday/Wednesday. Details TBD, but I think quite a few us are in play for good snowfall in the next couple of weeks. Just takes one to phase in a piece or good chunk of the PV, and it's boom. No guarantees on that of course, but it's not improbable.

Next weekend on the 12z EPS. Pretty good agreement. Granted we would like the mean farther northwest a bit, but there are left leaners. 

 

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Nah, north of your line is in play too. Just loop the ensembles. GEFS, EPS, etc. It's a pretty good parade of systems coming through our region every 3-4-5 days. Just taking the 12z EPS through 9/10 days: it's this coming Wednesday, next weekend, and then next Tuesday/Wednesday. Details TBD, but I think quite a few us are in play for good snowfall in the next couple of weeks. Just takes one to phase in a piece or good chunk of the PV, and it's boom. No guarantees on that of course, but it's not improbable.
Next weekend on the 12z EPS. Pretty good agreement. Granted we would like the mean farther northwest a bit, but there are left leaners. 
 
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Not even sure this is worth posting, but one can always dream. The 12z ICON really goes to town across E IA, S WI, N IL, thru MI with the weekend system. This would be the *weenie* totals from both systems this week.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Chicago WX said:

Not even sure this is worth posting, but one can always dream. The 12z ICON really goes to town across E IA, S WI, N IL, thru MI with the weekend system. This would be the *weenie* totals from both systems this week.

 

 

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ICON, ICON, ICON!!!:mapsnow:

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