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Winter 2024-25 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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the lack of snow is compounded by the overall zzzzzs following what has been a benign couple of years wx wise, really just ready for things to get wild again, february tors, ice storm, morch, something

Could definitely see a mega torch in February followed by a a March snowstorm.


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2 hours ago, DocATL said:


Could definitely see a mega torch in February followed by a a March snowstorm.


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Other way around is more likely this year imo. I actually feel like this spring might torch really hard, but a lot of it is going to depend on ENSO and any potential late-season SSW (happened in 2018 and completely screwed up the spring of that year).

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1 hour ago, Maxim said:

Other way around is more likely this year imo. I actually feel like this spring might torch really hard, but a lot of it is going to depend on ENSO and any potential late-season SSW (happened in 2018 and completely screwed up the spring of that year).

sign me up for a spring torch 

 

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1 hour ago, A-L-E-K said:

Zzzzzz

 

just endless ass end of nw flow

While just west of Amarillo gets a foot, Arkansas, 4-8 in Nashville. It's almost comical at this point. Can almost guarantee when a storm comes rolling along in a week, we'll be battling precip issues. 

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1 hour ago, A-L-E-K said:

suspect the 19/20th event will be another miss south

Have to take my daughter back to the University of Iowa next weekend. Figure that's when the hex is lifted

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Zzzzzz
 
just endless ass end of nw flow

Patterns persists despite what people see on an ensemble three weeks out and mumbo jumbo about changing trough positions. To top things off the baroclinicity south of us will draw anything synoptic to those areas. It’s all nickel and dime till springtime.
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23 minutes ago, DocATL said:


Patterns persists despite what people see on an ensemble three weeks out and mumbo jumbo about changing trough positions. To top things off the baroclinicity south of us will draw anything synoptic to those areas. It’s all nickel and dime till springtime.

Patterns do persist for periods of time, but changing patterns, trough positions, etc are not mumbo jumbo. It's meteorology. The pattern absolutely will undergo multiple changes before springtime. Whether it's favorable or unfavorable to any one area remains to be seen.

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500 MB trough is just not cooperating and migrating west to benefit our sub.  ENS looked like it would earlier this week but this is not the case currently.  Until this happens, we will get shafted.  

Exactly. No indication for change.


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6 hours ago, A-L-E-K said:

works out for us especially, yet another painful cutoff entirely dependent on timing to work out

at least it's on the table tho

That table's been pretty wobbly this winter. CPC's odd map with the high winds swath south of us. wonder what they are thinking?

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I know you should never get too excited from one model run 5 days out buuuutttttttt,   It's happening!

 

Actually more of a pattern thing but man are things lining up awesome for someone in the southern lakes to buried.  At least it's something to track.  

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19 minutes ago, Frog Town said:

I know you should never get too excited from one model run 5 days out buuuutttttttt,   It's happening!

 

Actually more of a pattern thing but man are things lining up awesome for someone in the southern lakes to buried.  At least it's something to track.  

Just shows you the volatility in the models past 5 days. For a few days gfs had this next threat as a strong front, atleast in this region. Today's 12z looks to develop a low further south in the plains instead of a more dominant low up in canada.

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