mississaugasnow Posted December 11 Share Posted December 11 53 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: 2013-14 is Columbus' 2nd snowiest winter on record with 56.4". Only 1909-10 saw more. Interestingly, while it was a cold winter there as well, it wasnt nearly as cold relative to normal as up here, ranking only as Columbus 28th coldest on record. I do think you are remembering the storm of Dec 21/22, 2013. Columbus saw temps soar to 69F with 2.17" of rain (a half inch of snow did fall Christmas Eve however). Up here, we had rain and freezing rain, with a bad ice storm JUST to my north. What was interesting about it here, was that we had snow on the ground continuously from Dec 8 - Mar 29, but what had been an 8-inch snowpack whittled away to patches and piles on Dec 23rd and lasted for a few days. While Christmas had frozen patches, piles, and a fresh dusting, it wasnt an official White Christmas (we had T depth). Those few late Dec days centered on Christmas were the only such days we would see any grass until late mid-late March. Thats the worst ice storm I've ever experienced (Dec 21/22 2013) tons of damage and power outages 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Impressive 48 hour shift from brutal cold to rainy and mild. Just got to get through tomorrow and we should be at least back to normal temps. I dunno…December has felt like winter temperature wise for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 18z Euro has us in the 50’s with late spring-like storms on the 16th. Can’t make this stuff up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, DocATL said: 18z Euro has us in the 50’s with late spring-like storms on the 16th. Can’t make this stuff up. Been wondering what with the incoming (delayed) La Nina if the other shoe would drop and we would see a bona fide late fall/met winter outbreak or 2 a la 2021. These last few troughs have struggled with lack of moisture return and/or maturing too late, becoming negatively tilted only just before the warm sector pushes completely off the east coast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Some duster+ chances around the 19th but def not the most exciting medium range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Trough position been too far east. Need it to retrograde west with a touch of SE ridge to appear to get out this dry NW flow pattern 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Some duster+ chances around the 19th but def not the most exciting medium range I may be in the minority here but that’s the pattern I want. A little pacific energy, a bit more western flow, cold not frigid, nickel and dime events that are enjoyable yet manageable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 17 minutes ago, DocATL said: I may be in the minority here but that’s the pattern I want. A little pacific energy, a bit more western flow, cold not frigid, nickel and dime events that are enjoyable yet manageable. . Zonal type flow is typically not my favorite in winter, but after this brutal stretch of CAD, any pattern change is an improvement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 There are a few of us downwind of the Great Lakes enjoying this winter so far. I am over 20" for the winter after last night. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 24 minutes ago, WestMichigan said: There are a few of us downwind of the Great Lakes enjoying this winter so far. I am over 20" for the winter after last night. No doubt. Winters for you guys are like instant oatmeal. Instead of just add water; its cold air. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 No doubt. Winters for you guys are like instant oatmeal. Instead of just add water; its cold air.It’s almost not worth mentioning. Yes the sun will set today. Happy for you nonetheless!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, WestMichigan said: There are a few of us downwind of the Great Lakes enjoying this winter so far. I am over 20" for the winter after last night. Come Monday, it'll all be gone and you'll join the rest of us with a bare brown ground. Sure lake effect is fun but system snow hits different. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Obviously taken with a grain of salt but the foreseeable future it looks like systems tracking through the Upper Midwest, a stronger one comes through, then it's suppression/east coast track/repeat. All while we sit in between with mist/rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascy619 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 The UP in Michigan are the ones who have truly cashed in with this pattern. There are areas approaching 100" for the season already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 It’ll be different in 6 hours but the GFS is trolling Chicago hard. SMH. Eastern seaboard gets annihilated including the southeast and we get goose egged. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, Stevo6899 said: Come Monday, it'll all be gone and you'll join the rest of us with a bare brown ground. Sure lake effect is fun but system snow hits different. Unfortunately you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Obviously taken with a grain of salt but the foreseeable future it looks like systems tracking through the Upper Midwest, a stronger one comes through, then it's suppression/east coast track/repeat. All while we sit in between with mist/rain.Exactly…seems like a tough cycle to break. Weird to think about all the variables that need to come together just to get it to snow in a place like Chicago. I would have never imagined that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 1 hour ago, Pascy619 said: The UP in Michigan are the ones who have truly cashed in with this pattern. There are areas approaching 100" for the season already. Areas in and around my cottage in Bellaire/Mancelona have 25-30 inches on the ground right now. While its impressive, it doesn't get me as excited as when it snows down here in the metro area. Also it's not rare for that area to get lake effect but usually its more towards the lake that gets these bigger amounts, and not so much around Bellaire over to gaylord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 Hoping for some snow in Columbus on the 21st. We are making the trip from Knoxville for the Buckeyes/Vols game. Looks to be trending colder with each passing model run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 15 minutes ago, Reb said: Hoping for some snow in Columbus on the 21st. We are making the trip from Knoxville for the Buckeyes/Vols game. Looks to be trending colder with each passing model run. GFS has had a lake-effect signal for the Notre Dame game on the 20th the last several runs. That would be pretty neat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 22 minutes ago, Reb said: Hoping for some snow in Columbus on the 21st. We are making the trip from Knoxville for the Buckeyes/Vols game. Looks to be trending colder with each passing model run. I'll be there as well. No you do not want it to be that cold, the horseshoe shape tunnels the wind. Bring the long johns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 36 minutes ago, nwohweather said: I'll be there as well. No you do not want it to be that cold, the horseshoe shape tunnels the wind. Bring the long johns! I’ve got all the gear ready. Vols coat, thermal undershirt, t shirt, hoodie, insulated long johns, fleece lined pants, carhartt face shield, Vols beanie, winter gloves, boots, hand warmers. I’ll be sitting in 17d under the box, so that should block a lot of the wind…but I’ll be prepared either way. Hopefully no scuff ups with Buckeye fans! Looking forward to taking in the traditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSNOW Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 hoping to be there as well GO BUCKS!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 12 Author Share Posted December 12 6 hours ago, WestMichigan said: There are a few of us downwind of the Great Lakes enjoying this winter so far. I am over 20" for the winter after last night. Most of our 4.0" this season is lake effect, obviously outside the belts. Other nearby areas have done better. Plenty of days with flakes have made a nice atmosphere in an otherwise zzz pattern, but time to get some synoptic snow in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 12 Author Share Posted December 12 5 hours ago, Stevo6899 said: Come Monday, it'll all be gone and you'll join the rest of us with a bare brown ground. Sure lake effect is fun but system snow hits different. You didn't have bare ground today lol. But I get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 12 Author Share Posted December 12 2 hours ago, DocATL said: Exactly…seems like a tough cycle to break. Weird to think about all the variables that need to come together just to get it to snow in a place like Chicago. I would have never imagined that. There's been hardly any synoptic snow anywhere yet this winter, so I wouldn't call anything a cycle really. This young winter has been all about LES, and that's something Chicago rarely cashes in on. Period of 19th - 22nd may have something, but wayyy too early to do anything other than speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 12 Share Posted December 12 GRR with the medium-long range tease. I think we all know how this will end though. We are looking at yet another system on Wednesday into Thursday that could become interesting. We have another southern stream system that will be lifting up to our south. At the same time, a northern stream trough will be diving in across the Midwest. How these systems interact with each other will dictate everything. If they phase, we could be looking at a bigger storm. If they come in separate, they will not be as impactful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 13 Share Posted December 13 There's been hardly any synoptic snow anywhere yet this winter, so I wouldn't call anything a cycle really. This young winter has been all about LES, and that's something Chicago rarely cashes in on. Period of 19th - 22nd may have something, but wayyy too early to do anything other than speculate.There’s been clipper activity to the north and the south. I know that’s a roll of the dice though. The 19th-22nd look like quick hitters. Cold chasing moisture. A strong quick cold press with suppression and then everything goes quiet. Weird. GEFS ensemble means are paltry and favor LES. All in all December may shake out to BN over all. Many of us outside the snow belt would have preferred a torch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvsnow Posted December 13 Share Posted December 13 14 minutes ago, DocATL said: There’s been clipper activity to the north and the south. I know that’s a roll of the dice though. The 19th-22nd look like quick hitters. Cold chasing moisture. A strong quick cold press with suppression and then everything goes quiet. Weird. GEFS ensemble means are paltry and favor LES. All in all December may shake out to BN over all. Many of us outside the snow belt would have preferred a torch. . Preferred a torch.....uh....no! 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 13 Share Posted December 13 24 minutes ago, iluvsnow said: Preferred a torch.....uh....no! Torch over cold and dry all day errday. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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