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MO/KS/AR/OK 2024-2025 Winter Discussion


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1 hour ago, MUWX said:

Springfield afternoon AFD is a great read.... because they basically admit that they have no idea what is going to happen. Stunning level of uncertainty less than 12 hours out. 

Yeah, I haven't really liked the probabilistic based forecasting since they started it. I think it's unnecessarily complicated for most people to understand. So when they start throwing out the various percentages I tend to kind of tune it out. 

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Got some great Thunder sleet around 4:30AM this morning in Tulsa.

Roads are ok for now, mostly it's slushy from the sleet. My concern is that by 5PM today, they are going to start hardening and become really slick.

I'll try to upload an awesome video I got of the thundersleet. You don't see the flash because I just missed it, but I got the BOOM., It was within a mile of me and set off car alarms.

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Well it looks like all eyes on Tuesday at this point. Potential for extremely cold temperatures accompanied with precipitation. Combined with high snow ratios is leading to some robust snow totals on the models. We'll see how this trends as we get closer. Euro, ICON and Canadian models seem to have same idea with GFS differing a bit depending on run. 

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This was the last frame of the 06Z Euro run. Included kuchera snow totals.

8-10 inches for most of us with more snow to come.

Will eagerly await the 12z EURO run.

 

Would love to see the GFS shift SW to fall in line with the Canadian, Euro and Icon.

If those other 3 hold, then it's likely the GFS will cave.

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Almost reaching blizzard criteria in a few areas.

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1 hour ago, StormChazer said:

 

This was the last frame of the 06Z Euro run. Included kuchera snow totals.

8-10 inches for most of us with more snow to come.

Will eagerly await the 12z EURO run.

 

Would love to see the GFS shift SW to fall in line with the Canadian, Euro and Icon.

If those other 3 hold, then it's likely the GFS will cave.

1739944800-h2HHVtsAHjU.png

1739944800-Ayzq9yuXDng.png

 

Almost reaching blizzard criteria in a few areas.

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Will you post the 12 Z models?

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Tues does look interesting. Those 45-50kt 700 MB SW winds on the Euro up and over a very cold airmass. Still a lot of ways this could fail though. 

EDIT: Also some of the early 18z models are coming in a bit more robust with the snow in some areas Saturday night. 

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The hype for this storm is already getting out hand.  How many times over the last 5 - 10 years have been in a similar stop only to get up getting close to nothing? Feels like a lot. 

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32 minutes ago, MUWX said:

The hype for this storm is already getting out hand.  How many times over the last 5 - 10 years have been in a similar stop only to get up getting close to nothing? Feels like a lot. 

 

59 minutes ago, JoMo said:

Being in the bullseye 5 days out, what could go wrong? right? right?

Yep. I am being very cautious. 

I do like the trend late Saturday though. Shall see if that continues. 

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12z Euro was pretty similar to the 00z last night with snow amounts and location. It's snowing in the teens and single digits in some areas so the Kuchera amounts are probably closer to reality. Although I am concerned about the overall width of the main band. It all depends on how the 700 MB winds behave. 

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