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Let’s talk winter!! Ohio and surrounding states!! 24'-25'


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I’m guessing, ILN will put those northern tear of watches over to advisories and leave the warning counties as warnings. Unless we see something dramatic with the euro which is very unlikely at this point.   Probably something like 3 to 6 across Columbus 2 to 4 once you get into Delaware County.  Admittedly, i feel like that’s conservative, but my guess on what they go with.    I’ll throw out my guess later.

But recently, how many times have we seen advisories get upgraded back to warnings once the storm evolves hopefully that’ll be what happens this time.

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7 minutes ago, buckeye said:

I’m guessing, ILN will put those northern tear of watches over to advisories and leave the warning counties as warnings. Unless we see something dramatic with the euro which is very unlikely at this point.   Probably something like 3 to 6 across Columbus 2 to 4 once you get into Delaware County.  Admittedly, i feel like that’s conservative, but my guess on what they go with.    I’ll throw out my guess later.

But recently, how many times have we seen advisories get upgraded back to warnings once the storm evolves hopefully that’ll be what happens this time.

Sounds reasonable. Euro & Canadian are red flags & just can’t be tossed. Fingers xssd we get lucky!

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6 minutes ago, pondo1000 said:

Sounds reasonable. Euro & Canadian are red flags & just can’t be tossed. Fingers xssd we get lucky!

euro is remarkably unchanged.   At this point it's time for the short term models.  I'd really like to see the rgem juice up.  The track isn't horrible but it's drying up the snow big time as the low transfers before it gets into WV.   Really need that primary to hang on a little longer....same old same old issues lol

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1 hour ago, buckeye said:

I’m guessing, ILN will put those northern tear of watches over to advisories and leave the warning counties as warnings. Unless we see something dramatic with the euro which is very unlikely at this point.   Probably something like 3 to 6 across Columbus 2 to 4 once you get into Delaware County.  Admittedly, i feel like that’s conservative, but my guess on what they go with.    I’ll throw out my guess later.

But recently, how many times have we seen advisories get upgraded back to warnings once the storm evolves hopefully that’ll be what happens this time.

Of course, you're correct - WWA just issued

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6 minutes ago, Crowbar said:

Of course, you're correct - WWA just issued

Ha!  I nailed it actually I’ve been reading iln discussions for so many years It becomes easy to guess what they’re gonna do.   Even nailed the 3 to 6 inches. Maybe I should quit my day job :lol:

Now let’s see if I’m right and they end up switching Franklin county over to a winter storm warning once the snow starts.  That’s another thing they seem to do quite a bit of,  Most  of our winter storm warnings aren’t a result of a watch going to a warning they are usually advisories going to warnings.

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5 minutes ago, pondo1000 said:

I forget, criteria for warning in DE County versus Franklin County?

I think they're the same - it's when you get down toward Pickaway/Fairfield etc where the WSW criteria is lower, but someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in.  I'm in Delaware County as well on the west side of Alum Creek

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9 minutes ago, Crowbar said:

I think they're the same - it's when you get down toward Pickaway/Fairfield etc where the WSW criteria is lower, but someone more knowledgeable than me can chime in.  I'm in Delaware County as well on the west side of Alum Creek

Cool. I keep thinking DE County & north was 6+ of snow for a warning 

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18 minutes ago, Crowbar said:

Curious if schools will open - wife teaches in Columbus and kids go to Olentangy.

With this coming in the middle of the night, you won't have school.  Even if you ended up with half what is forecast.  

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The disparity at this late juncture before the storm in QPF between major computer models is quite striking.  I mean at 24-36 hours out, my QPF total (north side of Cincinnati) is HRRR:  1.74" / NAM 3km: 1.55" / GFS: 1.40" / Euro:  0.96".  That is a huge difference in snowfall / sleet amounts.  

Digging into some other models not always used daily (so again caution like with the GFS graphcast) but interestingly the WRF-ARW and WRF-NSSL actually back the Euro side of the QPF envelope rather than the NAM and HRRR.  I maintain caution with the extremely amped up QPF numbers but willing to go a little over the Euro.

Currently going 5-9" (plus additional sleet) north side of Cincinnati up to just south of I-70.  3-5" just north of I-70.  Also 3-5" but with significant sleet (and light ice glaze) near and just south of Cincinnati metro.  I could see the core jackpot snow area seeing potential for a few bands to hit 10-11" but not confident in widespread totals that high.

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52 minutes ago, buckeye said:

12z hrrr

do we believe?

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Would love to, but think we're only going to get a few inches at best.  Other models showing more south.  Already told my wife and kids that they'll have school tomorrow. 

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It’s a game of inches here, literally.  I think it’s equal chances that we could get 2 inches or 8 inches.   
I’ll be watching radar and seeing how many hours of virga we’re gonna get.   A common theme that the hrrr and nam have is what looks like the leading edge of snow moving in around 3pm that becomes a head fake and dries out before it gets here and then finally punches thru between 7 and 8.

its hard to believe we have 9 more hours to go with this low thick cloud deck combined with the radar, but we’ll see.  

lets face it, this is how we do snow storms here….always on the edge, either north or south.
 

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