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Let’s talk winter!! Ohio and surrounding states!! 24'-25'


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57 minutes ago, OHweather said:

Nothing too exciting on the horizon, but most of Ohio should see at least a few flakes in the air Thursday into early Friday and a few spots may see a light/slushy accumulation. Just enough to remind us that we're deep into November already. 

 

Yeah I think it will be a good reminder that winter is soon upon us, but nothing overly significant. 

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Any of you Buckeyes have more info on the 1864 bliz? Been curious about it for yrs tbh. 

Ohioans who lived through the "Great Blizzard of '78" will never forget it. It is engrained as part of each person's "Ohio Experience", a legend to be told to their children and grandchildren. This storm was compared to the Blizzard of January 1918 and the New Year's Blizzard of 1864 for ferocity and disruption to everyday lives.

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11 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

Any of you Buckeyes have more info on the 1864 bliz? Been curious about it for yrs tbh. 

Ohioans who lived through the "Great Blizzard of '78" will never forget it. It is engrained as part of each person's "Ohio Experience", a legend to be told to their children and grandchildren. This storm was compared to the Blizzard of January 1918 and the New Year's Blizzard of 1864 for ferocity and disruption to everyday lives.

I was in second grade so it's blurry :P... 

seriously though, never even heard of a blizzard of 1864 or 1918.  I'm gonna have to look those up.

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13 hours ago, OHweather said:

Nothing too exciting on the horizon, but most of Ohio should see at least a few flakes in the air Thursday into early Friday and a few spots may see a light/slushy accumulation. Just enough to remind us that we're deep into November already. 

Have you done a winter forecast yet?

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17 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

Any of you Buckeyes have more info on the 1864 bliz? Been curious about it for yrs tbh. 

Ohioans who lived through the "Great Blizzard of '78" will never forget it. It is engrained as part of each person's "Ohio Experience", a legend to be told to their children and grandchildren. This storm was compared to the Blizzard of January 1918 and the New Year's Blizzard of 1864 for ferocity and disruption to everyday lives.

Interesting. Not many "official" weather observations are that old. Here is Lansing, Michigan from 12/31/1863 - 1/2/1864. 3 inches of snow, and brutal cold.

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Here is Toronto, Ontario from 12/31/1863 to 1/3/1864. 1.7 inches of snow, with a sharp cold snap.

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Doesn't seem that bad, unless it was worse in Ohio.

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5 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Interesting. Not many "official" weather observations are that old. Here is Lansing, Michigan from 12/31/1863 - 1/2/1864. 3 inches of snow, and brutal cold.

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Here is Toronto, Ontario from 12/31/1863 to 1/3/1864. 1.7 inches of snow, with a sharp cold snap.

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Doesn't seem that bad, unless it was worse in Ohio.

Certainly an arctic front came through, and maybe clashed with moisture just south of those cities down in Ohio. It wouldn't have had staying power after 1918 and 1978 if it wasn't in the same league. 

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19 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

Certainly an arctic front came through, and maybe clashed with moisture just south of those cities down in Ohio. It wouldn't have had staying power after 1918 and 1978 if it wasn't in the same league. 

Ive read accounts. It was not a large snowstorm by any means, but a rapid temp drop, rain turned to snow and temps got deadly cold. The artic blast was very severe in an otherwise tame winter.

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On 11/19/2024 at 2:31 AM, RogueWaves said:

Any of you Buckeyes have more info on the 1864 bliz? Been curious about it for yrs tbh. 

Ohioans who lived through the "Great Blizzard of '78" will never forget it. It is engrained as part of each person's "Ohio Experience", a legend to be told to their children and grandchildren. This storm was compared to the Blizzard of January 1918 and the New Year's Blizzard of 1864 for ferocity and disruption to everyday lives.

I believe the 1864 storm is covered in "Thunder in the Heartland," by Thomas Schmidlin, weather historian. When I read that book, I didn't make any specific notes, as it was almost impossible to find a weather observation that I could have included on my web site. If you look at the Daily Weather Map archive from the government (back then it was the US Weather Bureau) you can only see back to 1871 (amazingly).

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On 11/19/2024 at 9:34 AM, buckeye said:

Have you done a winter forecast yet?

I've been gradually working on it. Hopefully can get something posted later this weekend or next week. We'll have some chances around here, but I don't expect a wall-to-wall great winter. Probably will be a couple decent cold windows with snow chances with a couple of prolonged mild spells as well. 

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I'm not sure but looked like just under an inch IMBY on grass & elevated surfacess, but melted quickly after 9am.  Might get over 1" in the 2nd wave tonight in SW Ohio.  PS - I saw north of Milwaulkee is just under 7" right now and should top that with a little more, but I doubt that much makes it into the Indiana/Ohio areas.

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19 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

I've read accounts. It was not a large snowstorm by any means, but a rapid temp drop, rain turned to snow and temps got deadly cold. The artic blast was very severe in an otherwise tame winter.

That's what I figured. News reports/urban legends written in diaries, etc would be the info source vs actual wx site data at that distant time period. It's amazing how extreme some of those cold waves were back in the "pioneer" era of the Midwest. 1864 was lumped in with the two bliz events based on impacts to life. I just presumed it to be via snow/wind but not always obv.

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6 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

That's what I figured. News reports/urban legends written in diaries, etc would be the info source vs actual wx site data at that distant time period. It's amazing how extreme some of those cold waves were back in the "pioneer" era of the Midwest. 1864 was lumped in with the two bliz events based on impacts to life. I just presumed it to be via snow/wind but not always obv.

I'll try and find a news article.

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