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November 2024 General Discussion


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11 hours ago, nwohweather said:


We’ve got a little bet going on at the house if we’ll be able to golf into December. She buys my round if we do, I’ve got to buy dinner if we cannot. Highs still consistently in the 60s thru week 1

Im not a golfer, but I assume as long as there isn't snow on the ground, you can golf.

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47 minutes ago, nwohweather said:


Not quite. Still need grass to able to grow for the greens and temperatures need to be comfortable to a degree

If those are the metrics you're going for then good luck with December golfing. The grass growing part might be the toughest. lol

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My rain total last night through this afternoon is 2.02".  We underperformed all morning, but a heavy batch at the end really boosted my total.

My 10-day total is up to 5.66".  Our deficit from seven weeks of no rain has pretty much been wiped out.

We may get a bit more rain Monday night, but most of the rain over the next couple days should be southeast.

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On 11/2/2024 at 9:11 AM, Stebo said:

Desert of Ohio

I grew up there and still have several family members living there.  It is crazy dry down there.  Wells are running dry, smaller creeks have stopped flowing, the cracks in the hard clay ground are exactly what you would think of when you think of dry western scenes.  Many trees basically didn't turn color, they just lost their leaves.  I know of farmers that didn't bother harvesting corn because it would cost more to harvest than they would get out of it.  They just turned it under and are hoping for crop insurance to help out until they can plant next spring.  It is everything you would imagine severe drought would look like in an area that doesn't normally experience those conditions.

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23 hours ago, roardog said:

If those are the metrics you're going for then good luck with December golfing. The grass growing part might be the toughest. lol

I can confirm ours still is. As long as the temp is in the 50's you're fine, but once it slips below that the agronomy is not very playable. Plus there's the old rule of thumb "It's always colder on the golf course" so 55 in your neighborhood feels a bit warmer than out in the open N-NE breeze we tend to get this time of year. If we can maintain highs in the 60s with some rain through the 17th, I think good Thanksgiving golf will be possible.

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I can confirm ours still is. As long as the temp is in the 50's you're fine, but once it slips below that the agronomy is not very playable. Plus there's the old rule of thumb "It's always colder on the golf course" so 55 in your neighborhood feels a bit warmer than out in the open N-NE breeze we tend to get this time of year. If we can maintain highs in the 60s with some rain through the 17th, I think good Thanksgiving golf will be possible.

Seems like you’ve got a week or so before it just starts getting a little unfavorable in the temperature department.


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I was out there tonight, it feels so warm and even humid. It was 15C for a while but I knew it was even warmer when I went out again - it had risen another 1C to 16 now its 10:30 its 17C! Overnight low could be 17 which would be incredible for Nov 5 (Avg is 1C). DP of 16C by 1am! I forget what the lows were for the 2020/2021 events - I feel this may surpass those for that category. Our lows during these cool season heat events are getting amazing.

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I was out there tonight, it feels so warm and even humid. It was 15C for a while but I knew it was even warmer when I went out again - it had risen another 1C to 16 now its 10:30 its 17C! Overnight low could be 17 which would be incredible for Nov 5 (Avg is 1C). DP of 16C by 1am! I forget what the lows were for the 2020/2021 events - I feel this may surpass those for that category. Our lows during these cool season heat events are getting amazing.

Much better than the usual snow squalls on the 401 this time of year isn’t it?
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30 minutes ago, nwohweather said:


Much better than the usual snow squalls on the 401 this time of year isn’t it?

Yep, but to be fair snowsqualls in early Nov is rare or has been during the past 25-40 years in my region. The king was a major dump on Nov 2 1999 around here we were shy of 1.5/2 feet with drifts, Mid-Nov 2000 was insanity and the snowiest on record, a major lake effect snowstorm starting Nov 16 2024 that also gave the southtowns of Buffalo NY their historic 2 meter LES.

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November is not a 'winter' month.  Yes winter weather happens and there are some great historic November events.  If your expectations is for solid winter weather you are going to be greatly disappointed with November.

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November is not a 'winter' month.  Yes winter weather happens and there are some great historic November events.  If your expectations is for solid winter weather you are going to be greatly disappointed with November.

Good points. November snows are rare. Thing is, we’re just looking for a day or two of below normal temps. The ensembles hint at it and then trend warm. That said 15° above normal will at
least get us to low 50’s at some point.

Perhaps we will get a December to remember.


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3 hours ago, DocATL said:


Good points. November snows are rare. Thing is, we’re just looking for a day or two of below normal temps. The ensembles hint at it and then trend warm. That said 15° above normal will at
least get us to low 50’s at some point.

Perhaps we will get a December to remember.


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Detroits avg November snowfall is 1.9" and we have not had a below avg snow November since 2017. Snowflakes at some point in November are very common but big snows are very rare. Not thinking it's a December to remember but as climo cools rapidly, if this projected wet winter pattern starts to develop, could have some fun times (thinking Jan/Feb are more fun than Dec).

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3 hours ago, DocATL said:


Good points. November snows are rare. Thing is, we’re just looking for a day or two of below normal temps. The ensembles hint at it and then trend warm. That said 15° above normal will at
least get us to low 50’s at some point.

Perhaps we will get a December to remember.


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Here is an interesting Climo fact:  Nov. 1975 (Edmond Fitzgerald sunk on the 10th) and Detroit had 1/2 the month 60F++.  Then around the last week of the month we had a couple cold days and snow.  Month was way above normal temps and way above normal snowfall :lol:

No worries; it is coming.   I would rather get a great pattern change and lock in for the most part, rather than a 1-2 week pattern change and then go right back to crap. 

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24 minutes ago, Lightning said:

Here is an interesting Climo fact:  Nov. 1975 (Edmond Fitzgerald sunk on the 10th) and Detroit had 1/2 the month 60F++.  Then around the last week of the month we had a couple cold days and snow.  Month was way above normal temps and way above normal snowfall :lol:

No worries; it is coming.   I would rather get a great pattern change and lock in for the most part, rather than a 1-2 week pattern change and then go right back to crap. 

That November was one of the warmest on record....then we had a snowstorm on Thanksgiving. 

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1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said:

That November was one of the warmest on record....then we had a snowstorm on Thanksgiving. 

If I'm not mistaken, the following Winter was epic, I believe.  I know 76'-77' was one of the coldest, but I can't remember is 75'-76' was as cold.  

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13 minutes ago, Frog Town said:

If I'm not mistaken, the following Winter was epic, I believe.  I know 76'-77' was one of the coldest, but I can't remember is 75'-76' was as cold.  

75-76 had a snowy December, a cold January, then a blowtorch second half of Feb. Overall it was a good winter. In fact 1973-74 thru 1978-79 were all decent winters wrt cold or snow.

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3 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Records falling all over. The 82F at Zanesville matches the November monthly high. The 80F at New Philadelphia, Ohio is the latest 80F+ on record and only the second observed in the month of November... the monthly record is 81F from November 4, 1961.

Impressive numbers all across the Buckeye State. Just across the river from the far south, Huntington, West Virginia has reached at least 86F (30C). That matches a monthly record.

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Ok, it's getting pretty nuts here with regard to rain.  Yesterday, models had pushed much of the last round of rain well to our east, leaving only a couple tenths for us along the dry low track.  So what happened?  I got another 1.49".  We got a few tenths last evening, then the models really missed a narrow moderate to heavy band that popped up right through Cedar Rapids this morning into early afternoon.  My 12-day total is a whopping 7.16".  It's crazy how we've flipped from desert to rain forest in such a short period.

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7 hours ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

Models painting 2+ inches for mby, end up with less than a half inch. Neat. 

No chance.

Two day observed and radar rainfall totals are 1-1.50" across the entirety of DeKalb Co, with ~1" the past 24 hours alone (As of this morning).

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