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Sort of an interesting event here (at work) on the western fringe of this thing.  We kept getting pulses of light snow for a minute or two, and then not a flake to be seen.  That went on for over an hour.  Up in the sky you could see well defined cloud features from overhead and points west, and just a solid sheet of gray from overhead and to the eastern horizon.  Kind of a cool experience.

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The often wrong TWN hourlies and day chunks had my first flakes this evening - never happened. WG (has that site been abbrev before?) didn't show any afaik and has spotty rain overnight. My lows are still way abv avg over 6C during midweek. It will also be 6C for the high during the next few days - always 6 this month. Is Eastern KY getting snow before I see flakes?

Had way more brightness and sun than expected Thurs, was doomed to be permaclouded.

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5 hours ago, Torchageddon said:

The often wrong TWN hourlies and day chunks had my first flakes this evening - never happened. WG (has that site been abbrev before?) didn't show any afaik and has spotty rain overnight. My lows are still way abv avg over 6C during midweek. It will also be 6C for the high during the next few days - always 6 this month. Is Eastern KY getting snow before I see flakes?

Had way more brightness and sun than expected Thurs, was doomed to be permaclouded.

Sorry to hear that you didn't get any.  I did better than I thought would occur as it snowed nearly all day here with occasion moderate rates.  It came in pulses and in between the pulses there was some milky sunshine that would cause the temperature to jump a quickly above freezing.  Melting would occur until the next batch of moisture would move in drop the temp and it would snow. Most of the day thing were coated but by 3-4PM the temps stayed above freezing and with the warm ground temps and it was all gone by 4PM even with light snows continued on and off a few more hours.

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In other news, the rain and snow the last week here has bumped 2024 up to #4 all time for precip at Madison with 47.23 inches. The only years ahead of 2024 at this point are 1884, 2018, and 1881 with 49.19, 50.64, and 52.91 inches respectively. I think we can surpass 1884, and mayyybe 2018 if we get a QPF bomb at some point in the next month. I don't think we reach 1881 at this point unless something very strange happens, especially with the incoming cold/dry NW pattern. Although, at least yesterday we continued the overperformance streak at least further to the east. An area of Dodge County from Beaver Dam Eward got 6" of snow, which is definitely an overperformance. It'll be interesting if the streak continues as we start winter here. 

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A bit of snow on tap tonight into tomorrow am. Higher terrain could see up to 6". Looks like winter is starting to settle into the region. Here in town, very little with the warmer waters of the Lake keeping temps right around/just above freezing on an E wind. Typical this time of year. 

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2 hours ago, Brian D said:

A bit of snow on tap tonight into tomorrow am. Higher terrain could see up to 6". Looks like winter is starting to settle into the region. Here in town, very little with the warmer waters of the Lake keeping temps right around/just above freezing on an E wind. Typical this time of year. 

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The NAM has been trending extending the snow south to brush Minneapolis along the cold front. We’ll see what the Hrrr brings as it comes into range. Might see a quick dusting overnight here before the prolonged freeze begins. 

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On 11/22/2024 at 7:29 PM, Geoboy645 said:

In other news, the rain and snow the last week here has bumped 2024 up to #4 all time for precip at Madison with 47.23 inches. The only years ahead of 2024 at this point are 1884, 2018, and 1881 with 49.19, 50.64, and 52.91 inches respectively. I think we can surpass 1884, and mayyybe 2018 if we get a QPF bomb at some point in the next month. I don't think we reach 1881 at this point unless something very strange happens, especially with the incoming cold/dry NW pattern. Although, at least yesterday we continued the overperformance streak at least further to the east. An area of Dodge County from Beaver Dam Eward got 6" of snow, which is definitely an overperformance. It'll be interesting if the streak continues as we start winter here. 

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Pretty remarkable given the extended dry stretch we had after the spring faucet turned off.

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1 hour ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

The NAM has been trending extending the snow south to brush Minneapolis along the cold front. We’ll see what the Hrrr brings as it comes into range. Might see a quick dusting overnight here before the prolonged freeze begins. 

Light snow off the Lake starting already. This was a bit unexpected. Could end up with a little more along the shore here in town than forecast. We'll see how the rest of the day unfolds.

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On 11/13/2024 at 2:33 PM, Danny8 said:

If it makes you feel better im always entertained how long it takes Marquette to get it's first freeze. The city station on the water not the Marquette WSO. Has gone to November quite a few times the past few years, and they are still waiting on their first freeze this year

First freeze at the lakefront Marquette station yesterday Nov 24th 

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I'm heading the opposite direction Friday, but the lake looks to finally produce just north of here per APX:

Significant snowfall accumulations are
expected in the usual snow belts of northwest lower and eastern
upper, particularly during the Friday into Saturday time frame.
Moisture appears to be very robust during that time and forecast
model soundings look phenomenal with inversion heights through the
roof (or in this case 20,000 feet+). The dendritic growth zone
(dgz) which is between -12 and -18 C would be entirely in the
sounding promoting large snowflakes which would stack up nicely.
Actually, I can`t remember seeing soundings reaching this
magnitude for this long of a time period (60-72 hours+). The
mean steering flow looks to lock in out of the west northwest
but embedded short waves could cause the flow to waver a bit
from time to time. Either way, would not be surprised if one to
one and a half feet or more of snow falls in some areas during
that time. In addition, gusty winds later in the week could lead
to considerable blowing and drifting snow. Post Thanksgiving
Day travel could become risky at best with near zero visibility
likely at times in the snow belts.
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Obviously it doesn't happen as often as I think, but looking at the radar last night with the precip creeping north and halting at the Ohio border, can't help but laugh at how often that seems to occur. Doesn't bother me as much this go around as precip would've been rain but still. Not usual for storms to be missing south this early on...

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On 11/26/2024 at 9:43 PM, RogueWaves said:

I'm heading the opposite direction Friday, but the lake looks to finally produce just north of here per APX:

Significant snowfall accumulations are
expected in the usual snow belts of northwest lower and eastern
upper, particularly during the Friday into Saturday time frame.
Moisture appears to be very robust during that time and forecast
model soundings look phenomenal with inversion heights through the
roof (or in this case 20,000 feet+). The dendritic growth zone
(dgz) which is between -12 and -18 C would be entirely in the
sounding promoting large snowflakes which would stack up nicely.
Actually, I can`t remember seeing soundings reaching this
magnitude for this long of a time period (60-72 hours+). The
mean steering flow looks to lock in out of the west northwest
but embedded short waves could cause the flow to waver a bit
from time to time. Either way, would not be surprised if one to
one and a half feet or more of snow falls in some areas during
that time. In addition, gusty winds later in the week could lead
to considerable blowing and drifting snow. Post Thanksgiving
Day travel could become risky at best with near zero visibility
likely at times in the snow belts.

Can't wait to see the flakes flying on the cam at my cottage in bellaire. If it wasn't turkey day, I'd probably road trip up there.

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