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November 2024 General Discussion


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5 minutes ago, cyclone77 said:

Today's 0.29" so far brings us up to about 1.7" for event.  I'll take it.

Yesterday 0.49" in the tippy bucket. Today only 0.05" so far and the last slug of moisture might slide east of me or maybe just clip me. Keeping my fingers crossed. Could use some more.

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5 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Records falling all over. The 82F at Zanesville matches the November monthly high. The 80F at New Philadelphia, Ohio is the latest 80F+ on record and only the second observed in the month of November... the monthly record is 81F from November 4, 1961.

Here is a snapshot of hour-to-hour record breakers

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11 hours ago, bowtie` said:

Yesterday 0.49" in the tippy bucket. Today only 0.05" so far and the last slug of moisture might slide east of me or maybe just clip me. Keeping my fingers crossed. Could use some more.

My 0.04" turned into 0.82" overnight. Might actually have some grass to mow next weekend. How novel.

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11 hours ago, roardog said:

Pretty tight rain gradient with this system. There’s been over an inch here. There’s even standing water in the fields today. 

My total is now up to 1/2".  Yeah, thankfully many areas in MI did well.  Once the significant shift west with this system occurred in the models, the results are actually better then I expected.  Many times, I have seen these MO/IA/WI flooding rain events produce nothing more than a clouds and drizzle IMBY.

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2 hours ago, Lightning said:

My total is now up to 1/2".  Yeah, thankfully many areas in MI did well.  Once the significant shift west with this system occurred in the models, the results are actually better then I expected.  Many times, I have seen these MO/IA/WI flooding rain events produce nothing more than a clouds and drizzle IMBY.

I had 0.02" lol

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45 minutes ago, Lightning said:

It was interesting to see a good westward & stronger trend with this system after seeing so many be faster and weaker in recent months/years.

I know it's so dry but rain once the growing season is over isn't something I really care about. Definitely liking a more active pattern finally developing as winter nears. 

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0.84" of precip for Nov so far, and more this weekend. A wet Deer season opener here in MN is on tap this weekend. Glad to see more rains coming. It'll soak in, and stay there this time of year. Although WI has turned into more of swamp with all the precip they've had this year. Crying "Uncle". Been tough for some areas. Temps very pleasant for early Nov, which is nice. Considering the price of natural gas already, the less cold the better for the heating bill. 

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11 hours ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

Praying for first flakes before December 

That'd be a hell of an effort with this pattern. Looks like we're finally starting to fall off the cliff as highs are routinely getting back into the 50's. As I've said already, I'm team Golf as long as possible so this is very okay with me.

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ORD had a low temp of 63° on Nov 4th, which broke the record high min temp for the date of 61° (2022).

The low temp of 63° on Nov 4th also tied the all-time November record high min temp of 63°, set 11/9/2020, 11/7/1975, and 11/6/1924.

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4 hours ago, Chinook said:

Detroit was +3.5F for October, Toledo was +1.6. Detroit had a warmer average temperature, Detroit had 56.5, Toledo had 56.2.

Detroit had some questionably "warm" lows in October. Particularly October 27, when the low was 33 when just other thermometers right near airport were upper 20s.

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17 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Detroit had some questionably "warm" lows in October. Particularly October 27, when the low was 33 when just other thermometers right near airport were upper 20s.

I kind of wonder if Toledo just was simply colder, for some reason I can't explain, that is, not due to consistently rainy conditions (obviously.) Fort Wayne had +3.6F.

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13 hours ago, Chinook said:

I kind of wonder if Toledo just was simply colder, for some reason I can't explain, that is, not due to consistently rainy conditions (obviously.) Fort Wayne had +3.6F.

Mostly just a result of the fact that they added about 1.5F to the calculated mean for each month in the 1991-2020 normals for Toledo. The 1991-2020 mean for October is 53.1F for both Toledo and Detroit, so if they had just used the average, it would be +3.4F at Detroit and +3.1F at Toledo. If you look at the data, you'll notice a disconnect began in late 2018. What I think happened is the TOL ASOS was reporting too high during that period. While the normals are often thought of as averages, they are not. They are smoothed and normalized, but NOAA also makes adjustments based on pairwise homogenization. So I think the normals for Toledo got incorrectly adjusted upwards based on the warming in the last couple of years of the climate base period, which I believe was likely just due to a bad sensor or perhaps a problem with the fan/aspiration. The adjustments make sense if they are based on a change in equipment, change in location of the observation site, or a growing urban heat island effect, but can be unrepresentative if the changes result from an equipment problem that is corrected after the fact. In the case of TOL, the ASOS was down for much of the month of August. It's clear that since that change, it's been reporting temperatures more in line with surrounding locations.

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