CoastalWx Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Euro is an outlier Canadian did come north. So we are trying to compromise a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Just now, dryslot said: Outside of the elevations and inland in NNE, It would be a rainer. For sure..been looking like that on whatever it does for a while now. But Let’s get some snow laid down for us in our favorite spots…and then bring the cold in to tighten it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 5 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: For sure..been looking like that on whatever it does for a while now. But Let’s get some snow laid down for us in our favorite spots…and then bring the cold in to tighten it up. I'd rather get the ground frozen to start with, Looks like its going to be a cold start to December so that helps. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 3 minutes ago, dryslot said: I'd rather get the ground frozen to start with, Looks like its going to be a cold start to December so that helps. I've been saying this for a while. The last couple of winters have featured trails melting from the ground up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 56 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I don't see this week being Stein. Almost no one does except for the fella who promised less than a half inch last week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Just now, mreaves said: I've been saying this for a while. The last couple of winters have featured trails melting from the ground up. That's the ideal scenario but for the last several years it has not been the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Give me a few more days like today. Beautiful day to be in the office. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 LOL at the weekend TV Met crew I watched while at the gym on Saturday. All of them highlighted a snowstorm on Friday. They’re as bad as we are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 1 minute ago, Chrisrotary12 said: LOL at the weekend TV Met crew I watched while at the gym on Saturday. All of them highlighted a snowstorm on Friday. They’re as bad as we are. So no bomb cyclone? Shucks. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 29 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Who’s kicking the can Luke? The first week of December is a lot more conducive to something wintry than this week. That’s kicking the can now. You’re in a bad place bro. WW ... You know the deal...same S$#t.. different year. You have Jbenedet with his typical warm and no chance of the pattern producing Snow, to DIT with his famous line " Steiner "... But we know how he rolls. Once we have a Snow event... He'll be right on top of it with the enthusiasm of a 10 year old boy ( like the rest of us of course ). There's a group of people here that love to stir the pot. I used to take the bait and get sensitive... But learned it's all part of the game... :-) 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 11 minutes ago, dryslot said: That's the ideal scenario but for the last several years it has not been the case. For sure. But we can’t order what we want unfortunately lol. So imo, a few inches won’t insulate the ground much from the cold coming like a 12-18 incher would. But that’s just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I guess this could be posted in the December thread, but one thing that hopefully works in our favor moving through the first half of December is a less chaotic flow and pattern which are loaded with shortwaves. A huge part of the reason why guidance has struggled so much, particularly ensembles is the barrage of shortwaves. One model run and one model would highlight one shortwave as the main player while another model choose another and it was just constant flip-flopping. The northern stream should offer us plenty of chances for clippers and/or re-developing clippers off the coast. Looks like we may lose some STJ for a while, which isn't a bad thing at all but once we get a bit of a STJ connection going again, as long as we continue with the troughing signal in the East, we'll open the door for coastals. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: For sure. But we can’t order what we want unfortunately lol. So imo, a few inches won’t insulate the ground much from the cold coming like a 12-18 incher would. But that’s just me. Agreed, I always thought that some of that stuff was overplayed...like the snow cover in southeast Canada, lack of snow cover on the ground here, etc. Sure there is some influence, but it isn't going to have any bearing on the overall pattern. If the pattern is in place and you have favorable shortwave evolution and interaction, who cares if there is or isn't snow pack across southeast Canada or our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 5 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Agreed, I always thought that some of that stuff was overplayed...like the snow cover in southeast Canada, lack of snow cover on the ground here, etc. Sure there is some influence, but it isn't going to have any bearing on the overall pattern. If the pattern is in place and you have favorable shortwave evolution and interaction, who cares if there is or isn't snow pack across southeast Canada or our region. Agreed on what you said completely. We were taking about having the ground freeze first, and then bring the snow so a base could be firmly established in the sledding areas. I was just saying a few inches shouldn’t keep the ground from freezing if we have some good cold this time around. A huge snowfall can do that. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 25 minutes ago, Chrisrotary12 said: LOL at the weekend TV Met crew I watched while at the gym on Saturday. All of them highlighted a snowstorm on Friday. They’re as bad as we are. I'm not sure we would be discussing it much at the WFO except for the fact that it will be a high travel day plus all of our partners are going home Wednesday and we effectively lose a day of communication there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 The CMC and Reggie are consistent with the potential for 4-8" in the mountains, at least enough to cover the ground and make for some travel headaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCORH4L Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 49 minutes ago, dryslot said: I'd rather get the ground frozen to start with, Looks like its going to be a cold start to December so that helps. Ice fishing by mid month? Like days of yore when the olds used to get out there weekend after Thanksgiving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 57 minutes ago, Chrisrotary12 said: LOL at the weekend TV Met crew I watched while at the gym on Saturday. All of them highlighted a snowstorm on Friday. They’re as bad as we are. The quest for ratings has ruined on air weather forecasting... There should be a fund raiser to bring back some of the TV mets from the past! "Dollars for Burbank" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Euro coming south a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 12z Euro SE a couple tics with the slp tracking over the cape, A bit colder as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 4 minutes ago, dryslot said: 12z Euro SE a couple tics with the slp tracking over the cape, A bit colder as well. It's even close here but not enough yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Just now, ineedsnow said: It's even close here but not enough yet Just get the GFS to come a bit NW and a couple more tics SE on the Euro and this ends up being a decent interior event. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I think a lot of people will have some flakes this week. All in all, not a bad thing to end November. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Euro actually gives several inches here before the changeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 2 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: I think a lot of people will have some flakes this week. All in all, not a bad thing to end November. I avg 3" here in Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Verbatim, The euro would be a pelt fest then a flip to snow at my location but would rip in the foothills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 10 to 1 maps are high probably be more like 6 to 1.. even then it's still several inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 7 minutes ago, ineedsnow said: It's even close here but not enough yet ..take notice of the Fire Hose sign in the background ..as in the famed atmospheric fire hose that is all the rage lately...Max liked to drop subtle weather hints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 1 minute ago, ineedsnow said: Euro actually gives several inches here before the changeover It's barely 0C at 925. I'd caution that. However another tic southeast and you'd probably have some fun before a flip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: It's barely 0C at 925. I'd caution that. However another tic southeast and you'd probably have some fun before a flip. Ya it's close and definitely don't think it would be 10 to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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