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If models are believed we are into some pretty anomalous cold air by then.

Im heartened by the fact the CPC agrees with the models as per their outlook.

I’d be disappointed to not get 1” on the ground in the next 3 weeks within the beltway. That’s my bar, which is fairly ambitious given recent Decembers.
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2 hours ago, psuhoffman said:

Northern stream wave dives out of western Canada and digs south of us. That’s something we rarely see recently. If that actually happened then I’d believe maybe this is a anomalous season. 

With you man. Deep diving NS Systems are a rarity anymore. Clippers have become nearly extinct. Webber has a good Write-up on X on the how's and why's this may be one of those Winter's. Great presentation by him. 

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1 hour ago, jonjon said:

I miss clippers so much.  The lack of them the last decade is why our totals here have dropped off the ledge.

I have still wondered about that...like why did they all of the sudden shut off after 2015? Or was it perhaps because of the PDO flip? Even with a possibly changing climo in mind, the steep shut off with those is strange, isn't it?

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1 hour ago, Daniel Boone said:

With you man. Deep diving NS Systems are a rarity anymore. Clippers have become nearly extinct. Webber has a good Write-up on X on the how's and why's this may be one of those Winter's. Great presentation by him. 

Can I trouble you for the link please? 

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1 hour ago, jonjon said:

I miss clippers so much.  The lack of them the last decade is why our totals here have dropped off the ledge.

 

39 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

I have still wondered about that...like why did they all of the sudden shut off after 2015? Or was it perhaps because of the PDO flip? Even with a possibly changing climo in mind, the steep shut off with those is strange, isn't it?

 

True, but redundant since even if it were possible to get clippers in the warm regimes absent a northerly flow out of Canada or a sharp thermal gradient to fuel them…they’d just be rain anyways.  Clippers are just a label for weak NS waves along the arctic boundary. No arctic boundary. No clippers. 
 

I get the sentiment but the issue is bigger than just “clippers disappeared”. That’s just an effect of the whole winter patterns having been wrong in so many ways most of the last 8 years. 

 
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40 minutes ago, yoda said:

06z GFS was pretty nice for the i81 corridor into parts of C MD for next Friday 

So close to something fun for the rest of us if it was just a tick colder.  But a cold rain works just fine to eat and drink excessively on turkey day. 

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1 hour ago, BristowWx said:

So close to something fun for the rest of us if it was just a tick colder.  But a cold rain works just fine to eat and drink excessively on turkey day. 

Yea it would be nice, but like past years where is the cold high up north of us to feed in the cold this is the ingredient we have been missing over the past few years nothing really changing yet right?

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