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7 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

So no can kick? Thanksgiving pattern flip is still on?

There is still time! LOL! At this point we have pretty high confidence next weekend will get colder and windy. Western slopes in WV/MD have a good possibility of warned snow (maybe the B word, but we would need to see how things pan out!) -

As of now, models show it relaxing Thanksgiving week, so normal temps look like they will return... BUT that is all model talk. I think we need some run consistency beyond next weekend.... but I do not think the pattern supports sustained colder conditions. People with better credentials can confirm. In general though, I do not see a blowtorch in the extended. BUT, that can change too! LOL

 

 

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1 hour ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

So no can kick? Thanksgiving pattern flip is still on?

Sort of.  Big low late next week looks locked in, although details and timing still uncertain. However it doesn't look like it will incorporate a strong feed of true polar air anymore.  So seems like we moderate for a few days probably around Thanksgiving itself.  But ensembles and op runs too are suggesting another push of cold air late in the holiday weekend perhaps.  That's 2 weeks away though so take with salt.

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There could be a sneaky chance for something in early Dec. As advertised, there is a bit of a PNA ridge, -NAO with lower heights east of the Canadian Maritimes, surface HP in a good spot with below avg temps, and indications of a southern wave moving eastward.

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5 minutes ago, CAPE said:

There could be a sneaky chance for something in early Dec. As advertised, there is a bit of a PNA ridge, -NAO with lower heights east of the Canadian Maritimes, surface HP in a good spot with below avg temps, and indications of a southern wave moving eastward.

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If it doesn't work out do you think there will be a what went wrong write up?

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40 minutes ago, aldie 22 said:

If it doesn't work out do you think there will be a what went wrong write up?

The 'what went wrong' would likely be more of the same- every chance for precip fizzles in the short to medium range and we stay parched.

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20 minutes ago, CAPE said:

The 'what went wrong' would likely be more of the same- every chance for precip fizzles in the short to medium range and we stay parched.

Or just not cold enough. I agree there’s a chance as depicted, and if it does happen it would be an extra bonus.

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1 hour ago, aldie 22 said:

If it doesn't work out do you think there will be a what went wrong write up?

PNA underperforms, trough moves into the west coast. Wave cuts west, antecedent airmass was barely climo anyway. T-0.2” rain area wide. 

Rinse, repeat until April.

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2 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

Or just not cold enough. I agree there’s a chance as depicted, and if it does happen it would be an extra bonus.

Yeah the beginning of the month is a little early for the lowlands, but we have had streaks in the past that produced frozen the first week of December. Something to keep an eye on outside of hopefully some rain for us and the upslope snow potential for the highlands late next week. I might head out there Thanksgiving week, so hoping they get dumped on and it stays cold enough for there to still be decent snow cover.

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Giddy giddy

Heading up into the mountains, guidance continues to favor a multi-
day period of snow showers along the Allegheny Front. The initial
activity through Wednesday night will be comprised of rain showers.
However, rapid cooling of the column ensues as the cold upper low
tracks overhead. Strong ascent combined with favorable orographic
effects should yield ample opportunity for moderate to heavy
snow showers, particularly on Thursday into Friday. The snow
combined with the blustery winds may lead to significant
reductions in visibility and hazardous travel conditions.
Continue to monitor the latest forecast at weather.gov/lwx.
Heading into the weekend, upslope snow showers likely persist
given cyclonic flow aloft persists. This would add to any
snowpack already on the ground. From Thursday onward, daily
highs largely stay in the low to mid 30s, accompanied by low
temperatures in the mid 20s to low 30s.
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15 hours ago, WxUSAF said:

PNA underperforms, trough moves into the west coast. Wave cuts west, antecedent airmass was barely climo anyway. T-0.2” rain area wide. 

Rinse, repeat until April.

Summary of summary: -PDO (although I know there are various elements and blaming one sigular thing isn't the best science--but by perception that has become the main villain of the last 8-9 years!

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2 hours ago, nj2va said:

I’m getting excited for the Friday/Saturday as that’s a pretty classic setup for a good upslope event, especially as energy rotates around the ULL through the mountains.  

Yeah. Most Models almost completely show it's moisture drained in the Plains and Midwest as it hits the block and then slides SE. I've saw that played out before and almost always there's more QPF in the Apps than what's advertised. 

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2 minutes ago, frd said:

Trends continue for the late month transition to much colder, and possibly active as well. 

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That's a nice setup. Pig SER squashed and maybe a semblence of a STJ . SE moving Disturbances ( could we say Clippers as well) along the Polar Jet with possible phasing with what disturbances may ride the low road with blocking mitigating cutting. 

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