Fall/Winter '24 Banter and Complaints Go Here

[DocATL]

Almost a foot near Lafayette, LA. Unreal.


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[A-L-E-K]

 

[Powerball]

https://x.com/DylanFedericoWX/status/1881793364091375653?t=VbbHl7o7yx5V0JCoGbYouA&s=19

 

 

[Chicago Storm]

https://x.com/MaxTsaparis/status/1881762156640878868

 

[Chicago Storm]

i should have flown my palm down there for this winter storm.

it could have taught local palms how to prepare for and tolerate the conditions.

[Powerball]

Mobile should break its all-time record of 6" (also from the same 1895 storm that is NOLA's biggest) shortly...

https://x.com/NWSMobile/status/1881799913878835288?t=_ELP-DCULleDFK9QPb3Rlg&s=19

[Stebo]

2 hours ago, Powerball said:

Mobile should break its all-time record of 6" (also from the same 1895 storm that is NOLA's biggest) shortly...

https://x.com/NWSMobile/status/1881799913878835288?t=_ELP-DCULleDFK9QPb3Rlg&s=19

I believe it was officially broken.

[michsnowfreak]

Snow on the ground

New Orleans, LA- 8"

Burlington, VT- 2"

Detroit, MI- 2"

Minneapolis, MN- 1"

Bismark, ND- T

Chicago, IL- 0

Green Bay, WI- 0

[Powerball]

16 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Snow on the ground

New Orleans, LA- 8"

Burlington, VT- 2"

Detroit, MI- 2"

Minneapolis, MN- 1"

Bismark, ND- T

Chicago, IL- 0

Green Bay, WI- 0

Believe it or not, there are still parts of N. Texas with trace snow amounts on the ground from the last storm.

Part of it was because of glacier effect. Had so much sleet mixing in with the snow, and then a ton of rain got absorbed into the snowpack (with temps around 33*F - 34*F) before the inevitable flash freeze.

[cyclone77]

52 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Snow on the ground

New Orleans, LA- 8"

Burlington, VT- 2"

Detroit, MI- 2"

Minneapolis, MN- 1"

Bismark, ND- T

Chicago, IL- 0

Green Bay, WI- 0

Wow, New Orleans had over twice the snowfall MLI has had (3.2") all season today.

[roardog]

Someone should have prepared for this and took their snowmobile to New Orleans. You probably could have been the first person to ever use a snowmobile in New Orleans. lol

[OrdIowPitMsp]

27 minutes ago, roardog said:

Someone should have prepared for this and took their snowmobile to New Orleans. You probably could have been the first person to ever use a snowmobile in New Orleans. lol

I want to ski down a levee.

[Harry Perry]

Truly a once in a century (or better) storm down there. Think of all the kids that’ll get to sled for the first time and have snowball fights… they’re going to remember this core memory forever and probably be wishing for it again for years to come. 

[TheClimateChanger]

2 hours ago, roardog said:

Someone should have prepared for this and took their snowmobile to New Orleans. You probably could have been the first person to ever use a snowmobile in New Orleans. lol

Would have been a good opportunity for some entrepreneurial northern snowplow operators, as well. I would reckon there aren't too many of those down there.

[hawkeye_wx]

There are people in New Orleans showing measurements of 12".  I have lived in Cedar Rapids for 50 years and I have never measured 12" from any storm.  

[Powerball]

2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Would have been a good opportunity for some entrepreneurial northern snowplow operators, as well. I would reckon there aren't too many of those down there.

A company from Indiana actually will make (at least) a good $168K from this...

https://www.wwltv.com/article/weather/weather-impact/new-orleans-hires-snow-plows-from-indiana-company-new-orleans-snow/289-f308c479-6a99-4338-bb9e-d1e0e76d90db

[Powerball]

https://x.com/NWSNewOrleans/status/1881888699698561085?t=8ZtLrF-7uVxyN8XkDSAe_A&s=19

[Powerball]

12 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said:

There are people in New Orleans showing measurements of 12".  I have lived in Cedar Rapids for 50 years and I have never measured 12" from any storm.  

Pretty sure there's quite a bit of slant sticking going on (as well as people measuring drifts), but even accounting for that, it's still quite exceptional for that latitude.

[Powerball]

One thing I'm very skeptical about though are the QPF numbers that have been confirmed so far (NOLA airport supposedly only measured 0.24").

That said, an average snow ratio of ~12:1 does seem about right judging from the nature of the snow, which is still impressive for a daytime snowfall at that latitude...

https://x.com/NWSNewOrleans/status/1881921441308021174?t=83B6o8UBiKdzgjS-XAwLew&s=19

[Chambana]

8 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said:

There are people in New Orleans showing measurements of 12".  I have lived in Cedar Rapids for 50 years and I have never measured 12" from any storm.  

Wait, what? Not even during 2013-2014 or 2014-2015? That’s a remarkable statistic. 

[michsnowfreak]

8 hours ago, Powerball said:

Pretty sure there's quite a bit of slant sticking going on (as well as people meaauring drifts), but even accounting for that, it's still quite exceptional for that latitude.

For sure, although down there they literally have no concept of measuring snow haha. Could also be measuring on grass (which is undoubtedly lush and squishy) and sticking the ruler in too far. Wild storm.

[michsnowfreak]

8 hours ago, Powerball said:

One thing I'm very skeptical about though are the QPF numbers that have been confirmed so far (NOLA airport supposedly only measured 0.24").

That said, an average snow ratio of ~12:1 does seem about right judging from the nature of the snow, which is still impressive for a daytime snowfall at that latitude...

https://x.com/NWSNewOrleans/status/1881921441308021174?t=83B6o8UBiKdzgjS-XAwLew&s=19

This goes back to our conversation yesterday. ASOS is too dry in dry snow. Idk what they do to it, but theyve definitely made improvements at first order sites like DTW, but the non-first order sites (ex: DET) the ASOS still does awful (I thought I heard theres ASOS and AWOS, but not sure). My guess is that since it never snows in new orleans, their ASOS did not have the proper calibration that theyve done to correct the dry issues at more northern locations. The link you sent is exactly how I measure liquid in my snowfall, and is the traditional way the NWS does it at non-ASOS sites. Which is why ill say it again, man-power is still needed to measure snow but the ASOS is used 99% of the time for liquid. Its usually quite good, but sometimes falls short. Automation is not always the answer imo.

[DocATL]

This goes back to our conversation yesterday. ASOS is too dry in dry snow. Idk what they do to it, but theyve definitely made improvements at first order sites like DTW, but the non-first order sites (ex: DET) the ASOS still does awful (I thought I heard theres ASOS and AWOS, but not sure). My guess is that since it never snows in new orleans, their ASOS did not have the proper calibration that theyve done to correct the dry issues at more northern locations. The link you sent is exactly how I measure liquid in my snowfall, and is the traditional way the NWS does it at non-ASOS sites. Which is why ill say it again, man-power is still needed to measure snow but the ASOS is used 99% of the time for liquid. Its usually quite good, but sometimes falls short. Automation is not always the answer imo.

The gulf was very warm over the summer and into the fall. Likely was a powder keg to enhance the snow rates.


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